I don’t think I’ve seen every strawman argument against veganism all at the same time in the same place like that last thread that reached the front page the other day…

There’s one moderator on the community, but that’s not enough to stop the trolls coming here to derail any semblance of vegan discourse. Like, banning carnists here isn’t gonna happen (unless it does I guess), but we could have mods with copy-paste anti-strawman arguments with proper citations on standby, so hopefully it never gets as bad as the other thread.

I’m not a fan of heavily moderated places, but maybe having a rule like “don’t post post x y z argument and watch a b c Earthling Ed video instead” would help cut out some of the “good-faith” antivegans. But then again, the omis were excusing their behavior as it “reached the front page of lemmy”, that means murder is OK now! /s

Curious to see what the community’s thoughts would be. Do we just need to relegate ourselves to the circlejerk communities from now on, or would this community actually be by vegans for vegans?

Edit 1: I am now a mod of the community. I’ve reworked the sidebar and added some resources on veganism, rules, and links to other communities. I am interested to gauge feedback on it, and if anyone has any suggestions please comment them :)

  • Eevoltic [she/her]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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    1 year ago

    True. I think we should have some resources in the community box and a FAQ of sorts that they can also be directed to. At the moment there seems to only be

    Community about everything vegan

    Although, thinking about it now, we could have a [Vegan Only] tag for posts where the discussion can be debates about veganism for vegans. Not sure if that would ever be respected or if it’s even practical. That way there can be the vegan outreach as well as serious discussions on veganism.

    • Pablo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      1 year ago

      I’d appreciate that. To make it more clear I’d call it [Vegans only], but I love the idea that the OP can decide it upfront.

        • Pablo@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Thanks for the explanation and that’s exactly how I feel about it! I didn’t know I could convert a comment into a separate post, that’s a cool feature! I’m at work so sorry if I GOT it wrong lol

          • Eevoltic [she/her]@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
            2·
            1 year ago

            I didn’t know I could convert a comment into a separate post, that’s a cool feature!

            Sorry, I meant manually doing that by asking people to make separate posts or by making one yourself. We can’t move comments (I think), but that’d be an interesting feature if we could. I do see that it could be used for abuse if mods could move anything anywhere.

            You didn’t get anything wrong btw, I just explained what I meant poorly :)

    • Audacity9961@feddit.chEnglish
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      1 year ago

      I don’t think banning carnists is the solution.

      I do think that rules similar to /r/vegan would help a lot.

      I think another forum would be better for arguments against veganism, otherwise this forum will just get swamped with upvoted carnist answers to vegan or vegan-curious questions, or upvoted arguments against veganism. We will also routinely see the same fallacies over and over again.

      Look at the recent discussion around the post of keto.