• Nobsi@feddit.de
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    Here is a list of peace offers which would grant the Palestinians a country of their own, they refused all of them

    1937 - Peel commission, rejected

    1947 - Partition resolution, rejected

    2000 - Camp David, rejected

    2001 - Taba, rejected. Arafat starts the second intifada and a year later changes his mind.

    2008 - Olmert offer, rejected

    Hamas have tried to agree to boundaries Despite media attempts to portray it as a new Hamas charter, it is not. The new ‘policy document’ accepts the creation of a Palestinian state in 1967 borders, but still rejects Israel and claims its territory. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-39775103

    Here are some other noteworthy peace meeting or proposals from Israel to the rest if the Arab world, which were rejected

    1919: Arabs of Palestine refused nominate representatives to the Paris Peace Conference.

    1920: San Remo conference decisions, rejected.

    1922: League of Nations decisions, rejected.

    1937: Peel Commission partition proposal, rejected.

    1938: Woodhead partition proposal, rejected

    1947: UN General Assembly partition proposal (UNGAR 181), rejected.

    1949: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNGAR 194), rejected.

    1967: Israel’s outstretched hand for peace (UNSCR 242), rejected.

    1978: Begin/Sa’adat peace proposal, rejected (except for Egypt).

    1994: Rabin/Hussein peace agreement, rejected by the rest of the Arab League (except for Egypt).

    1995: Rabin’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

    2000: Barak/Clinton peace offer, rejected.

    2001: Barak’s offer at Taba, rejected.

    2005: Sharon’s peace gesture, withdrawal from Gaza, rejected.

    2008: Olmert/Bush peace offer, rejected.

    2009 to 2021: Netanyahu’s repeated invitations to peace talks, rejected.

    2014: Kerry’s Contour-for-Peace, rejected.

    Not gonna link Trump’s imbecilic peace plan as an example.

    Here is a list of peace offers the Palestinians offered to Israel -

    None

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      Why would they ever accept any “offer” to have their homes and land taken away?

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      Look at the Native Americans for an example of a colonized population that accepted the terms of their colonizers.

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        Still alive???
        Also how is it comonization? According to both religions both own the land. One party accepts the other while the other wants to kill all jews because of my god is bigger.
        I will never accept antisemitism.

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      I tried finding that video - but I cannot find it in the article. Could you provide a link?

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      The general take on Lemmy is: it’s okay for Palestinians to become extremists after decades of violence, but for Israelis? no no no sir.

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          Has it ever occurred to you some people are independent and therefore don’t always subscribe to a single tribe?

          Probably not, because you’re a tribalist projecting your tribalism onto literally everyone else.

          In your mind, people are with you or against you. There is no nuance.

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        According to one religious book it is and according to another religious book it isnt.
        This argument is boring. depending on how far back in time we go it is or isn’t.

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            Not the argument here. Good for you for being atheist but Jews and Muslims aren’t. For them it isn’t just a lie. And their beliefs are under protection of almost every developing country so we also have to take in account that their beliefs in this are valid.
            I don’t see any use in them either, but religion is the cause for this 120 year war.
            Being contrarian doesn’t solve this.

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          Islam is based on Judaism. So it’s Jewish land according to both these books

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            No, it’s not. Both are based in the middle East and on Abraham, but they differ wildly.

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        And Palestine is not? What are you on about? Same Brits who gave Palestine their country, decided to give Jews theirs.

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        A substantial portion of the 20% of Israel’s population that are Arab Israeli citizens would beg to differ. They have legit gripes with how the State operates, but they want jack shit to do with Palestine.