Clown show.
A clown from Texas will nominate Trump next week.
There was a crazy idea a year or so ago that they would impeach Biden and somehow skip Harris and have the speaker of the House become president. Maybe that is their master plan.
My father believed this and was sure that not only would Trump be Speaker of the House, but that Democrats would help Republicans impeach and remove Biden and Harris so Trump could be President again. He was so sure this was coming that he wanted to bet me that this would happen. I didn’t take the bet because I knew my father would “forget” the bet and/or change the terms of the bet after that fact.
My father didn’t have an answer as to why the Democrats would help remove Biden and Harris and get Trump into power again. He just accepted it as truth from whatever right wing source he was watching.
Not that difficult a plan once Trump is Speaker.
Just need to have Jan 6 Par 2 go more successfully.
His fan club literally had gallows built for Mike Pence and he was his damn VP.
somehow skip Harris
They’ll just say “She can’t be president, she’s a girl”
Matt Gaetz voted for Trump in one of the speaker votes back in January. Trump had (and has) no chance to get more than a small minority of Republican votes
Oh the circus is just setting up the bigtop. Wait til MTG runs for speaker.
Well, they don’t get anything done anyway, it’ll just be a lot more not getting done with extra angry white trash if that screeching monster gets elected speaker
If you thought Boebert getting caught groping and bejng groped in the theater was bad, wait ‘till MTG gets caught on C-SPAN live giving blowjobs for votes
edit: self-removed as a possible fake until verified
edit: hoax confirmed, nothing to see here
Known fake tweet unfortunately. But given her track record, I was fooled for a minute.
Oh thank fuck. Not that she’s not perpetually shrieking human trash, I just can’t fathom someone being that stupid.
Jewish space lasers
“We are producing fossil fuels. That keeps people’s houses warm in the winter. That saves people’s lives, people die in the cold. This Earth warming and carbon is actually healthy for us. It helps us to feed people, it helps keep people alive. The Earth is more green than it was years and years ago, and that is because of the Earth warming.”
ok, that one is definitely
truereal. Amazing how you can search her name with any issue and find some ignorant or complete batshit take on it.
Touché
Laugh all you want, but it’s theoretically possible to start forest firest from a space laser. Atmospheric scatter and all.
It’s not what happened, but it is technically possible to focus enough energy on one spot with modern lasers.
Just checked, you are correct, but it’s a sad state of affairs when it’s still that believable.
Republicans be like:
“Well, since we barely control the house, and the democrats control the presidency and the senate, we’re going to be forced to compromise with the democrats anyway. So we could just nominate a center-right speaker that some of the more conservative democrats could stomach. Then our legislation would go into the senate and executive setup for bipartisan success.”
“Nahh, a lack of drama would be bad for ratings”
Working with the Democrats on nearly anything is considered treachery at this point. I don’t think we’ve been so polarized other than the Civil War.
The only reason we’re not in the middle of a Civil War right now is because there’s no convenient lines dividing the sides like there were in the 1860s.
I think my feelings about this can be summed up as “holy fuck”. I thought the Dems might try to save him to avoid another budget shit show, but after he lied about them on Sunday and didn’t make any overtures to them, they gave him the middle finger as a bloc, and he deserves it.
Right now the Crazy Caucus is effectively acting as a third party spoiler, except they are actually in office, in a position of power.
Will a coalition form, as Hakeem Jeffries put on the table? This could effectively neuter the Crazy Caucus. Will R’s actually oust Gaetz and possibly others out of the House? Something else?
Without McCarthy running again or naming a successor, this is a real push-comes-to-shove moment for the R party.
I assume that the dems felt they had more to gain than to lose.
He also failed to honor the deal that he made with them to get into the speakership to start with, so there’s really no reason to negotiate with hkm.
Especially because they might be able to persuade moderate republicans to give them the speakership.
These fucks cannot be trusted. Every promise they make is made in bad faith.
Not disagreeing, there.
They learned from the best over in Russia.
Are there enough GOP House members from competitive or bluer districts that could swing this? I know the GOP has a razor thin majority, so it shouldn’t be that many who would need to vote with Democrats.
At the same time, that kind of thing, some kind of coalition, just isn’t feasible in the US. Any Republican, no matter if the district is safe or not, who votes for Jeffries would be primaried. And the primaries show us that the extremes tend to win them. It’d be political suicide.
We literally saw this in action on Saturday. McCarthy chose to put up a clean CR that Democrats were willing to and did support. And in return he just became the first Speaker to be removed through a Motion to Vacate.
I would argue what happened saturday and today, are different than working with democrats. McCarthy has flip flopped in helping Democrats and the far right. Of course he got kicked. He helped the right by offering them things in order to first secure his Speaker role, then they shot him in the foot with the debt limit, and he had to request help from democrats. He should have tried to work something out with democrats to begin with as the far right was never going to be happy with his decisions.
He should have tried to work something out with democrats to begin with
He worked out a deal with Biden months ago! He had a deal in may that he blew up because he had to bend the knee to the traitor caucus, so his dumb ass got what he deserved. And we get yet another clown show from the Republicans while they vote 2 dozen times for speaker.
Indeed. Had he honored the deal, perhaps the Democrats would have saved him. Instead, he made enemies of everyone and got himself removed.
I thought the Dems might try to save him
It’s his own party that ate him. Dems don’t need to anything with them. Dems are trying to keep the country running, they cannot also play mom to every single GOP whiny baby that tosses a fit. The Republicans have got to get their shit together or don’t and split into two parties. Because a schism this large that has them sabotaging their own Speaker of the House, like the unity in the party is gone at this point.
As far as Dems being on the hook about this, this is all I have to say about it:
I know. I’m not saying the Dems needed to save him, just that I thought they might given the pressure of the CR. However, I think it’s a good move on their part to let the chips fall where they might right now.
The difference is that the CR averted a government shutdown that would have hurt thousands of people (if not more). Working to get that passed was the adult governance thing to do.
With the Speakership, this is an internal GOP affair. It’s their party in chaos and it’s better for Democrats to stay out of it. Let the Republicans get hurt politically because they can’t even keep their Speaker for 10 months. Perhaps, after a while, the Democrats will step in to help some moderate Republican win the Speakership with major concessions, but for now the Republicans can eat each other alive.
What was the lie on Sunday? When I searched for “mccarthy lie sunday” I get a bunch of stuff about Gaetz but nothing about what the lie was.
My jaw hit the floor when I saw this news though. As near as I can tell McCarthy took a huge political risk in giving the finger to the hardliners and working with the Democrats to get the budget through.
As it stands I expect 3 consequences:
- Republicans will double down on never working with Democrats.
- The hardliners will gain significant power within the Republican party
- The Republicans are going to replace him with someone much more hard line
Every Republican will look at today’s events and decide that it’s political suicide to work with the Democrats. They’ve just seen that doing so will draw the ire of hardliners and gain no benefit from Democrats and even the leader of the party can get booted for doing so. Very few people will want to risk their careers on reaching across the isle.
Gaetz challenged McCarthy. McCarthy said, “Bring it on.” Gaetz brought it and won. So now Gaetz is going to run a few victory laps and every interaction he has with his party will carry an implicit, “Don’t fsck with me unless you want to get McCarthied.”
Given that Gaetz went after him specifically for working with the Democrats I expect that the Republicans will look for someone who is far less inclined to collaborate.
The lie is likely a reference to McCarthy going on air trying to pin the potential shutdown on the Dems
https://nitter.catsarch.com/atrupar/status/1708492417001759040#m
That’s correct.
They’ve just seen that doing so will draw the ire of hardliners and gain no benefit from Democrats
If the speaker lied, reneged on deals, and was a dirty snake in the grass.
McCarthy could have had a deal weeks ago if he gave the hardliners the finger and went with the deal he agreed on. I would bet that the Dems absolutely would have supported him against Pizza Gaetz and the rest of the traitor causus just to piss them off. But dude has all the spine of a tank of jellyfish and double backed.
Maybe he’ll learn that he’s worthless if no one trusts him.
Thanks. It’s an interesting article but I don’t think it addresses the core of the problem. Who eats the rats when the dirty snake is gone?
The article covers a lot of reasons for Democrats to dislike McCarthy. That’s kind of a given though since he’s the leader of the opposition party during a time of heightened partisan rivalry. It doesn’t address the question of if it’s actually a good idea.
The hope that Democrats will be able to force Republicans to elect a more moderate speaker seems like a moon shot. Democrats don’t have a majority and McCarthy barely managed to get past the objections of the hardliners. What chance does a more moderate speaker have?
Barring that unlikely scenario, the result is going to be an even more divided house. We don’t even know when a new speaker can be elected. The hardliners have shown that they can shut down someone who shows even a hint of compromise. If their power to obstruct just grew since the Patrick McHenry doesn’t have the power to actually pass laws. Those hardliners now have a credible chance at carrying out their threat to “Shut it all down.”
This article is pretty good actually: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/10/03/why-democrats-might-not-want-save-mccarthy/ haven’t finished reading it all, so it may mention this, but also McCarthy literally didn’t even want a deal with Democrats. Not much of a strong reason for Democrats to help an opponent unless it helps them, and with how much of a mess the Republican party is right now, Democrats may be able to get some moderate republicans to elect a D Speaker, at least for some time.
Republican’s malice is only ever matched by their enormous cowardice.
That’s why Republicans love telling anyone who’ll listen about how many guns they own that they’re prepared to defend themselves with herp derp. That chest thumping never comes out of bravery. That’s their fear on display.
Yes, run away Kevin, run away like the scared child you are.
Well there’s a trifecta here: they’re also vindictive.
Whoever gets put in needs to change the rule back making it so one person can’t call for removal.
McCarthy only agreed to it to end the 15 vote nonsense, and we see how THAT worked out.
From a veteran GOP strategist: “Anyone who ascends to Speaker and doesn’t renegotiate the rules package can’t be surprised when they’re asked to dig a hole in the desert and get shot in the head.”
I don’t see that happening. If a less-extreme Republican looks likely to win, you can expect the Freedumb Cocks to want to keep the rule in place after the events of today. If a more-extreme Republican looks likely to win, I don’t think the Republicans in competitive districts would go want to change the rule either.
And if a moderate (relatively speaking) Republican teams up with Democrats to get and keep his Speakership, Gaetz will simply hold daily votes to vacate the position. He won’t care if he loses every time. He’ll grind the House to a halt to have his 50th, 60th, and 70th votes until he gets his way.
Apparently, there’s a Republican-led effort to kick Gaetz out of Congress. I don’t see this actually passing, but I’d love to see it happen.
“I will not seek to run again for Speaker of the House,” McCarthy wrote on X. “I may have lost a vote today, but I fought for what I believe in—and I believe in
AmericaKevin McCarthy. It has been an honor to serve myself.”Had to fix that quote just a little, for accuracy.
At least somebody believes in him.
Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-CA) will not run for House speaker again.
Said McCarthy: “I will not run for Speaker again. I’ll have the conference pick somebody else.”
McCarthy’s Republican colleagues ousted him from his post today.
Awww. I was looking forward to his further humiliation.
This makes me sad, I was hoping that McCarthy would continue to debase themselves.
Don’t worry, he’s still a Congressman with plenty of opportunities for his own personal future debasement.
He should resign
He’s no fun at all.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Immediately following the vote, GOP Rep. Patrick McHenry, a top McCarthy ally, was named interim speaker and the House went into recess as Republicans scrambled to find a path forward.
The Republicans voting to oust McCarthy as speaker were: Gaetz, Eli Crane and Andy Biggs of Arizona, Ken Buck of Colorado, Tim Burchett of Tennessee, Bob Good of Virginia, Nancy Mace of South Carolina and Matt Rosendale of Montana.
McCarthy ally and House Rules Chairman Tom Cole said, “Nobody knows what’s going happen next, including all the people that voted to vacate (they) have no earthly idea what, they have no plan.
Given their unwillingness to break from MAGA extremism in an authentic and comprehensive manner, House Democratic leadership will vote yes on the pending Republican Motion to Vacate the Chair,” he wrote.
The GOP no votes were Gaetz, Crane, Biggs, Buck, Rosendale, Good, Mace, Burchett, Cory Mills of Florida, Victoria Spartz of Indiana and Warren Davidson of Ohio.
Gaetz was directly pressed by his colleagues during a Tuesday party meeting for his grand plan, and who would replace McCarthy if he was ousted, sources said.
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I really don’t see how getting rid of McCarthy helps anyone besides Republican hardliners.
Total contrast to how some of the prosecutors have been handling their cases. They keep looking down a Trump digging furiously in a giant pit and hand him some more shovels.
It benefits Trump and Putin the most both of which are Republican priorities.
🤣
See, I wanted him to run and win just to put a bow on how clown car stupid the current Republican Party is.
The bow is going to be the next dozen votes trying to find the next person
dumb enough to climb on the crosswho is able to bring the Republicans together enough to win the job.It’s either going to end up being either some absolute melon or enough moderate Republicans flip and let Dems take control. My money is on the former, given Republicans would rather burn the country down that work with Democrats.
