If U.S. President Donald Trump fails in his stated goal of annexing Canada through economic force, what would happen if he ordered the world’s most powerful military to invade?
Some experts and academics say it’s a notion too preposterous to even contemplate. But Aisha Ahmad isn’t one of them.
“When you look at the power (imbalance) between the U.S. and Canada, an invasion would immediately result in the defeat of the Canadian Armed Forces,” said the University of Toronto political science professor, who last month published an essay on the subject in The Conversation.
“But a conventional military victory is not the end of this story. It’s just the beginning.”
I would join the canadian insurgents. Fuck this government
It would another Vietnam or Afghanistan. They’d invade, kill a few thousand maybe million people, mire around, and then retreat again with their funds drained and thousands of crippled veterans with PTSD.
vietnam but the viet cong can drive to your house
And the Viet Cong look exactly like the Americans this time around. Good luck!
Well they looked like the south Vietnamese, so that really was a problem.
There would also be an internal insurgence south of the border to support the canucks, especially along the border states.
Don’t forget the “mission accomplished” picture while they retreat.
It would cause a civil war within US itself.
I feel like this has to be the case. America is a disaster but I cannot fathom the populace or even the military being complacent as they march over the border.
Look up Kent state shootings. They fired on their own. The people in the military are maybe there for an education but mainly to get paid and some to shoot people. They’ll have no issue attacking us at all.
If it comes to that, those that would have an issue will have left on their own or been purged by that point.
decades long is an understatement. unless they mean the US itself will collapse
Maybe not collapse, but they sure as hell won’t ‘win’.
In a recent article published in The Atlantic magazine, (American military historian Eliot) Cohen used a tongue-in-cheek approach to warn Americans against invading Canada, pointing out that previous attempts led to dismal results.
His review of American military failures starts in 1775, when U.S. troops invaded Quebec, where they distributed pamphlets — translated into French — awkwardly declaring: “You have been conquered into liberty.” The campaign ended in disastrous defeat for the American Continental Army in December 1775.
During the War of 1812, former U.S. president Thomas Jefferson said conquering Canada was “a mere matter of marching.”
“This was incorrect,” Cohen wrote. “The United States launched eight or nine invasions of Canada during the War of 1812, winning only one fruitless battle. The rest of the time, it got walloped.”
There was a certain light colored house that got lit on fire by retaliatory forces back in 1812.
This being something to talk about is fucking incredible.
They’ve gone completely off.
The modern US hasn’t fought a war with someone right next door, who looks and talks like them. Not only would it be hard to hold captured cities, but I think many Canadian fighters would walk across that massive unsecured border and start fucking up US resources like electrical stations, water supplies, subway systems, internet backbones, government buildings, . It is super easy to buy guns and ammo in the US, bombs are not hard to make. We would have a fair amount of local support as well.
We Canadians could just walk around the US in public and you’ve never know it.
Blue states won’t stand for it either, the US will have to deal with the double threat of saboteurs and defectors
Blue states understand that you can’t just go and TAKE a country’s sovereignty, and that trying to do so sets a dangerous precedent.
Red states seem to forget that it goes both ways. Another country can try to TAKE the US (e.g., Russia, china).
Red states seem to forget that they would be furious if another country tried to invade the US. They fail to look in the mirror.
It’s stupid because a lot of Americans have families in Canada and some Americans actually live in Canada and loads of American businesses have offices and branches in Canada so they’d literally be bombing themselves.
Canadians were known as the most ruthless wartime force. I will bring that back to protect my daughters right to her body. Our neighbour should never mistake kindness for weakness
Come fuck around with Canada, murica! We’ll be waiting for you!
If they do invade us they will have accepted genocide as the most efficient tactic before crossing the border.
I mean, I don’t really want to genocide America, but I guess if they’ve accepted that who am I to hold back?
As long as they understand we will show no mercy!
and that the canadians will have help from everywhere
I’d join the insurgency from within. We have lots of overkill guns down here and very little supervision over who can buy them.
Well shit. Wouldn’t American laws apply to the new citizens? The very laws intended to prevent violent occupation?
Hahahaha. Those laws are for “citizens”, not subjects.
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It’d be like a remake of Red Dawn but with the cast of Letterkenny.
I would expect American insurgents supporting our former Canadian allies and friends.
Do they mean an insurgence comprised of Canadians or US folk…? Both maybe.
Definitely both.
Because going to war with people who like the cold is always a good idea.
Smh
Starting to really consider a meshtastic device for every family member. Thankfully, we mostly all live within range of each other.
Do you plan to DIY? I am intrigued but wish there were more reasonably priced and well-reviewed turnkey units.
Yeah, I will probably DIY it. I need to cover 6 households, so I’ll be buying in bulk.
I thought about this as well, but kinda assume they’ll be jammed fairly quickly if discovered to be tactically useful. And then non of our garage door openers will work.
I feel like it would be useful for mobilization more than anything. By the time they get around to jamming signals, I think my family will be safely out of harm’s way. If it works after that, bonus.
Is there any communities dedicated to helping Canadians prep? IE, content like guides on getting your PAL, information on firearms, and just general independence and (realistic) prepping advice?
Not that I’m aware of. There are manuals/pamphlets that other nations have put out that offer some basic advice, ie: have 3 days-2 weeks of canned food available, fill multiple jugs with potable water, etc.
Fyi - PAL courses are filling up fast in my area, so people are aware of that at least.
Rod and Gun* clubs, and similar groups, are all over the country. They have all of what you need. The diversity of a group might vary based on things like region but charter-rights Canadian values are generally a baseline.
If a search engine isn’t helping to find an appropriate target sports group try calling local gun ranges and asking them for contacts.
*god and run clubs
Government should cancel PAL requirements and all registration type paperwork. Make it hard for US to track guns
That would also make it a lot harder for the Canadian government to track whether pro-American annexationists are amassing guns. We can’t assume everyone who wants a gun is a Canadian patriot, especially if the US ramps up hybrid warfare techniques to stir up unrest here.
I don’t know why everyone assumes the use of military force to annex Canada would take the form of a massive conventional invasion. Hybrid warfare approaches like spreading misinformation, covert ops, stirring up local pro-American militias, etc. could do 95% of the work, without the sort of overt violence that generates insurgencies.
It’s very possible to defend against hybrid threats, but only if we recognize the threat exists instead of assuming a US invasion would necessarily be a catastrophic strategic blunder.
Canadians will walk amongst their invaders. They wont be safe.
