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One in five Americans (20 per cent) polled by Leger this week say they would like their state to join Canada, more than double the proportion of Canadians who said they would like their country to become the 51st state of the United States. Article content
“Only 9 per cent of Canadians believe it is likely that Canada will become the 51st U.S. state. By contrast, 20 per cent of Americans would like their state to join Canada and become a Canadian province, a proportion that is higher among respondents aged 18 to 34 (30 per cent),” reads the new Léger report.
Canada has a functioning government. Sign me up!
And universal health care, and 12 months EI for parental leave after the birth of a child.
Just to add, for anyone curious: Canadian healthcare is provincial, not federal, so your mileage may vary depending on which province you live in.
One of the “Canadian officials” recently quoted in American news for threatening to withhold electricity is Doug Ford, the Conservative Premier (i.e. the “Senator”) of Ontario. While many Canadians have supported his response to Trump’s tariffs, he’s been dismantling Ontario’s public healthcare by withholding public funding, so he can set up a two-tiered private/public system. He’s also had a fair number of scandals. And was just comfortably re-elected :^)
Geezus. OK then. Thank you for the info. I’m in B.C. And while things could be better, I can’t complain. I had a bad fall last year. Xrays were taken almost immediately in emergency. There was a long wait to see a doctor. Once I saw the doctor, surgery was scheduled really quickly with a surgeon. The up side? No bill.
Oh gosh, glad to hear things are somewhat better over there, healthcare-wise. I hope your recovery went/is going well!
While I have love for Ford, he’s more akin to Governor than Senator.
Whoops! That’s the word I was looking for :^) thanks
6-18 months, depending on the province, with both extremes being elective, not mandated.
5-9 weeks for the dad too, also depending on province and elective.
Edit: also subsidized daycare in Quebec (180/mo is peanuts) with further subsidies for low income families. There’s also a federal subsidy, but adoption has been slow by for profits.
Thank you for this info. I’m in B.C., so going by my province.
It’s gotta be way more than 1/5 in VT. Half the houses have combo Canadian/US flags hanging. And have for years. They’re in danger of having a different meaning now though I fear.
It would be amazing if we could have Washington and Oregon in Canada… :)
And California, make a land bridge between Canada and Mexico! Plus Canada would jump from 9th largest GDP in the world to 3rd largest!
No, it would not. California’s GDP is highly dependent on it being part of the USA. CA agriculture would get devastated when the US refuses access to water from the Colorado river as we just did this to Mexico this week. CA tech companies would flee California as the US government will tie access to DoD money to being an American company so the tech sector will flee as well. The third largest industry last I checked was education which gets a TON of US federal dollars.
California without the USA would rapidly look more like Slovenia than France economically speaking.
There aren’t many if any states that would be better off apart from the USA.
Colorado is blue so it’s coming along!
Which means nothing as the Feds control that water
We’re taking Nevada, Arizona and Nevada as well if that’s how you want to play!
Not if the whole coast is owned by Canada! The Pacific will be theirs!
Go look for the source if that river. Then look at how critical it is to the USA. Then compare the arsenals of the two nations. Canada will never control the Colorado river.
Go look for the source if that river.
Colorado? One of the bluest states in the USA?
You do realize California residents and companies pay more taxes to the federal government than they receive back, right? Pretty sure they can easily fund their own education with some of that money.
Yes they get back .95for every $1.
Now remember how I said the 3rd largest industry was education which got tons of federal dollars? When a kid in NCgets a grant for college and spends it at UCLA that money was “spent” in NC despite going to CA so it is entirely posdible CA takes in more than it gives.
California would be a third world nation very fast if it left the USA.
California could get water from Canada ;). Education funding is also on the chopping block unless they bow and scrape to Trump’s ideologies, so…
We could also reinvest federal tax money into desalination and renewable energy to power it.
Not in the parts of CA that get water from the Colorado river
Hell, I’ll vote for my state to join just about any country with a functioning healthcare system.
Such as?..
Canada, for one.
Well, I suppose relative to American health care it is.
I don’t believe canada is perfect but the US is really fucking bad, so it would probably be an improvement.
Though enemies of the US would probably be cackling at it dissolving. US conservatives really are a heady cocktail of traitors and absolute fucking idiots.
Red States could finally achieve their dream of being third world countries 🥰
If the USA leaves NATO it technically becomes a Third-World Country. Enjoy!
NATO membership isn’t a requirement to be a developed country though
The way they word the contrast between Canadians and Americans is extremely biased.“9 percent of Canadians believe they will become the 51st state”, not that they want to, just that they believe it will happen. While “30 percent of Americans would like their state to become part of Canada”. If you asked the Canadians if they want to become US state I guarantee it would be lower
What would have been interesting: How many Canadians would like an American state to become part of Canada?
I wouldn’t want any of them to join my country.
As a Prairie guy, I’d love to have MN join us
As a Minnesotan, yeah alright
I thought this was weird (insidious?) as well.
If you asked the Canadians if they want to become US state I guarantee it would be lower
Any of the polls I’ve seen put it 13-20%.
Would you mind sharing those polls? I haven’t seen any that high
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/canada-join-u-s-poll-1.7434317
https://leger360.com/canada-51st-state/
EDIT: I can’t find the one that said 20%. It was on a Lemmy post a few weeks back. However, it said 80% were strongly opposed, and didn’t break down the other responses. The article just assumed the other responses weren’t opposed.
Thank you for the links! There’s definitely some variability in how the questions are asked, and obviously polling bias (though those could go either way), but this is still way higher than any of the polls I had seen. I appreciate you taking the time to find them for me.
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Canadian Province of Oregon has a very nice ring to it!
And Washington! Also all of New England!
On behalf of Washington State I accept this offer.
Oregon also!
Perhaps we can organize a referendum
I’d love to see a map of support. I imagine the further north, the more likely to want to merge.
Obligatory Jesusland Map.
Canada please decline this offer until a sane generation is old enough to vote, the current ones are broken
Oh don’t worry 99% of us have been seeing the online requests and cackling at the sheer fucking hubris lmao
Nah, we’re good.
Bet its even higher for some states.
I’d sign up for it. Illinois isn’t too far from Canada, and I’d live to see how the US gets by without Chicago. Good luck rerouting all your freight to avoid border crossings lol. Sigh. It’d never happen in a million years though.
When shit hits the fan, just fight on our side (PS: Bring your national guard assets with you too, so they can fight on our side against the Nazis, thanks!).