• NoIdiots@lemmy.cafe
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    10 hours ago

    My grandma died because of understaffed hospital but the scummy right-wingers are discussing which fighter planes we should be buying lmao.

    Hope the revolution comes soon

  • Quittenbrot@feddit.org
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    12 hours ago

    Not doubting his general point. But it is a bit weird of Mr Gomart to pick the Rafale to prove it.

    It is precisely what happened there (France leaving the Eurofighter Typhoon programme and doing their own model due to not being able to find a common compromise) that cripples European alternatives and enables American models to dominate our market.

    Would we be able to agree on common standardised models, we could have far more for far less and it could be European.

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        10 hours ago

        …and there’s nothing wrong with that. We just all (!) need to understand the errors from the past in order to not repeat them. I would have liked him making a slightly more deliberate statement more.

  • morgunkorn@discuss.tchncs.de
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    23 hours ago

    never understood why the armies of the EU wouldn’t bank on airframes produced locally, we have great technology with Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, Saab Gripen

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      8 hours ago

      Perhaps because we technically correctly think that using money on warfare is a complete waste of money and resources of the worst kind.

      Until of course it isn’t.

      In hindsight, Europe should’ve started getting on its feet starting from 1990.

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      13 hours ago

      Looking at the reactions when Poland bought US planes taught me a lot about the lack of maturity / insights from Eastern European countries, still blinded by the shining lights from NATO and US while ignoring their EU neighbours.

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        22 hours ago

        It’s much simpler than that: the Americans are always in charge of international operations.

        The Dutch Air Force officers still get soggy about the prize for “the explosion of the year” that they received for bombing a Serbian powerplant. 🤮

        An occasional pat on the back is enough, they don’t even need to bribe our leaders anymore.

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      23 hours ago

      I would get of buying foreign products in order to appease them, but buying something you can’t even use without their permission for every start is really stupid

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    23 hours ago

    Imagine the US invading the EU (or don’t play according their whims) and they can just *boop* disable all our advanced equipment.

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      8 hours ago

      Just like the cylons. It’s for the best, nobody wants European pilots to die, esp if we can just boop them and they can’t fight.

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          21 hours ago

          Idk, but what did happen is that the John Deere remotely disabled equipment stolen by the russians. This is one of those cases where it sound cool but it obviously comes with horrible implications.