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The fact that they used ashley graves for this meme is killing me
I remember seeing someone get a callout post on Twitter for saying they don’t see an ethical problem with cannibalism if it’s consensual. That’s all they said, and they got dogpiled so hard that they apologized and went to therapy for their “unnatural thoughts”, and the callouts continued.
Unless several Twitter users plan to give them unrestricted access to their corpse soon, I don’t see why that’s callout-worthy.
I don’t just not see an ethical problem with it if it’s consensual. I’d argue it’s the most ethical way to eat meat in that case. We do horrible things to animals without their consent. If someone consents to being eaten, that must be more ethical.
You can argue it’s disgusting or something, but if you’re arguing with ethics as the basis, consensual cannibalism has to be better than eating other animal meat.
My biggest argument for ethics is that if it is legal to do, it will be easier to provide incentives for it. Already a problem with illegal substances and such I guess.
The rich and powerful have a problem where the normally unattainable luxuries/curiosities in life are freely available and boring. It’s why you see millionaires doing crazy stunts, and so many get into illegal drugs or trafficking, like with Epstein and his ilk.
They can offer money, power, or other benefits to those who don’t have it, and also manipulate the circumstances in their favor, and create a market for human meat. One where the poorest of people could sell their own parts/body, or create parts for consumption if supply drops. Our current system does the same with labor, but that seems significantly less damaging.
Your argument is valid, but by the same logic selling yourself for work is unethical, yet we all do it. I agree there is logic to it and the system of incentives is messed up, but I don’t necessarily agree selling yourself for cannibalism is any worse than selling yourself for labor.
People just like to rationalize their disgust. It’s probably also why homosexuality is supposedly immoral.
All we need is to engineer animals to consent being eaten.
Did they actually go to therapy or did they just say that to try and save face? (Not that I believe they deserved that level of push back necessarily.)
That’s a good question. I kinda hope they didn’t, because that’s a stupid amount of money to spend to punish yourself for an unorthodox opinion.
If I’m dead, I absolutely would have no quarrels with people eating my body. Nothing to complain about since I hold no beliefs that when I die, my body needs to be intact for me to go to a heaven like place.
Also, who cares what any family members would think. It’s my body, not theirs. If I don’t mind people nibbling on my corpse, then I’d hope any family that cares about me is able to respect that wish.
To be fair, if you’re dead you’ll have no quarrels with anything. I understand what you mean though. You have no quarrels now if someone eats you when you die.
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ey gonna be honest, i wouldn’t want to eat human flesh, even when im starving.
however if my dead body can save someone’s live then they gotta do what they gotta do. it’s not like i need it anymore
idk man I think the mental gymnastics go the other way around here. You have to make a shit load of assumptions to consume human flesh safely and ethically:
- the person being eaten consents to their body being eaten
- the person has no family or each and every one of their relatives consents and is totally ok with their loved one’s body ending up in a casserole
- the person has no diseases that can be transmitted by consuming some or all parts of their body: prion disease (brain), AIDS, hepatitis and loads other blood-transmitted illnesses, to name a few obvious ones
- there are no drugs or medications in the person’s body that could be absorbed into your system (regurgitated meth, yummy!)
- you have the means to effectively and safely process or cook the body yourself or we set up an entire new industry around mass human body consumption which sounds like the plot of a Stephen King novel tbh
As some have pointed out here, if eating human meat is your only available choice in an extreme life-or-death survival situation, it would have to do, but unless you also have the means to carve up and cook the body, you’re actually going to consume more energy digesting the raw flesh than what you’re getting in return. Humans make for rather poor food overall, that’s a fact. I would back this up with some evidence but I don’t feel like being put on a list for looking up the nutritional contents of human bodies lol
I don’t care for cannibalism but the second bullet doesn’t sit right with me. I always wanted to be composted. My family will hate that, but I don’t think it’s their choice.
Funerals are for the living, not the dead. I struggle to think of a good reason not to acquiesce to their wishes prior to dying, so as to make their grieving easier, given that yours will not matter at all then.
the person has no family or each and every one of their relatives consents and is totally ok with their loved one’s body ending up in a casserole
Assuming your first condition is already met then nah, a person’s own wishes as regards their own body ought to supersede those of anyone else
You haven’t eaten ass until you’ve eaten corpse ass
If anyone wants to kill and eat me, go right ahead
It’ll be nicer than dying alone and having my body rot in my apartment till someone eventually checks on me
“How would you feel if someone ate your body?”
Would I be dead? I wouldn’t care then, how could I? Go ahead, make more use of the body.
In survival situations I don’t see it as that much different than organ donation.
Dead bodies make for poor meat the longer it rests. Which is why people don’t really eat roadkill. Unless they are looking for brain worms like RFK.
Prion diseases. Accumulation of different substances, like mercury, lead, strontium-90, and, a new contender to the list: micro plastics. And you’ll want to have a look at a person’s medication and likely want to make sure they’ve been off of it for a few days before consuming their flesh.
aren’t prion diseases usually just a thing for the brain? though I haven’t considered the medication aspect… I want to eat a human heart some day, any other things I’d need to consider? I guess I’ll just take the risk with the medications.
Misfolded proteins can occur everywhere it’s just more fatal if it happens in the brain.
While this is true, the main prion diseases that occur in humans do come specifically from neural matter.
the free meds are just a bonus ;3
the funny thing is I’m being entirely serious. I need a heart transplant and if I survive I want to turn my old heart into burgers and share them with my girlfriend and boyfriend.
Would you be able to get your old heart tho? I don’t imagine hospitals give back organs to people
the doctor said I can get it back. though it’d be in formaldehyde and after they did sciencey stuff on it, not sure if its still edible at that point. if eating it isn’t an option I’ll make pendants out of it. cut a part off and put it in a little glass vial.
This is the future the left wants!!!
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Is there enough substance to turn it into burgers, plural? An average human heart is, what, fist-sized I think? Seems to me like you’d get one, maybe one and a half patties out of that, no? And you probably can’t even use all of it, I’d assume.
I have dilated cardiomyopathy so my heart is humongous. and yea I plan to mix it with other meat
A pure heart burger probably wouldn’t be good anyways. You could mix it with another meat
aren’t prion diseases usually just a thing for the brain?
Don’t you want to eat the crispy thinking bacon? Your loss. Next thing you’re telling me you don’t want to eat the testicles …
Heh, my partner and I have already had the, “I don’t seek it out, but if we’re life-and-death stranded and you go first, sorry, you’re provisions now” conversation.
Prions are a big problem for cannibalism since they resist high temperature. So they’re still deadly even if the “meat” is well cooked. That said, Bones And All was a great film about cannibalism. And it was romantic, in a fucked-up way.
Yea just dont eat the brain you should be fine
My main gripe is that humans don’t have much meat on them. It works in a pinch, but the effort needed to eat so far outside of our normal pallette isn’t worth it.
That said, I would be in favor of letting nature decompose our bodies more. I hate having to waste so much effort on disposing of bodies, especially once I die. I want my body to get torn apart by animals, not buried with holy rites. Mummification is the only burial practice that seems kinda cool. Cremation seems unnecessary, especially if I can get eaten by something instead. Just take what’s useful, chop me up a bit, and throw me in the compost!
Just dump me in a forest somewhere
That can kinda be arranged, actually. Something that came up during one of Caitlin Doughty’s videos is a nature preserve type place in Florida that they protect by burying people there to decompose naturally. I’m not going to look for more info about this on Christmas though, lol.
Endocannibalism - eating people from your own group -has been practised as a respectful part of funerial traditions by a handful of cultures across the world and may have been more widespread in prehistory.
Yeah so has ritualistic rape of boys to instill them with manhood. Historical precedent does not infer a normative ethical framework in any direction.
Tbf, that increases the risk of prion diseases.
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