I understand the post but the linked explanation makes 0 sense. What does that post have to do with this one?
spujb suggested that drag should try some simpler memes than the Cunk one from yesterday, until the people on 196 understand the “trans trolls” issue well enough to appreciate memes with more irony and layers in them. It’s a good point, most people don’t really think about transphobes accusing trans people of being trolls very often. Drag would like everyone to understand the issue well enough that when trans people are accused of trolling, most people are ready to think critically about the accusation. Transphobes like to claim legitimacy by saying their BS is in line with the best interests of trans people. Like TERFs crying about trans kids going through “invasive surgeries”. It’s able to fool a lot of people who aren’t familiar with the specific issue.
was good advice apparently because, me being ‘one of the noobs not up to date on the latest issue’ i wasn’t really able to follow yesterday’s meme because it was built on too many layers i hadn’t been present for. This one tho i just think about and ‘yeah makes sense’.
Thank you for the affirmation. Drag is going to keep posting these in increasing complexity until you understand the Cunk meme
My problem with the cunk meme is that drag goes into one of the most trans-inclusive places on the internet (lemmy.blahai.zone) and just straight up shits on all Lemmy users as being transphobic (that’s what it sounds to me).
That makes no sense in that context.
Also I (as many others) have not had an interaction with a “person pretending to be a civilized trans person”. And drag has not posted a link proving they exist.
To me the “pretending to be a civilized trans person” part this sounds completely bonkers and I can’t understand how that “trolling” would work.
But yes, the Lisa Simpson meme makes sense in itself but is in dire need of an example more than an explanation.
The example is self-referential, drag is called a troll and told drag is pretending to be trans a lot, even though drag is pretty chill when you get to know drag.
Blahaj is trans inclusive, but Lemmy isn’t. Even in this thread, the Blahaj mods have had to remove comments by people from other instances. Drag thought 196’s users could agree that Lemmy at large is a lot less welcoming than Blahaj.
And drag doesn’t think there are any trolls who pretend to be respectful trans people. But there are people who think drag is a troll pretending to be a respectful trans people. They think being trans is an effective troll because they hate trans people. As you say, it doesn’t make much sense, except from a transphobic point of view.
Today drag will post another meme that drag hopes will explain more.
I don’t really agree about the idea of Lemmy as a whole being any less inclusive than any other corner of the internet. If anything, I would say it is slightly more inclusive (though some of it definitely is not genuine, like the entire instance that will go full white knight mode).
The example, and what went on in the comments here is my first experience with this particular brand of transphobia. I’ve honestly had to do almost zero moderation in the trans focused community I made.
The amount of blatant hate that has been thrown my way (threatening and insulting DMs etc) has been about proportional to the user base here.
I’m sorry that drag has been the target of this kind of garbage, and thanks for making me aware of it. I hope drag keeps up the fight and doesn’t let people get drag down.
i’m still kind of confused wtf is going on but yeah i guess this is certainly easier to read than last time
what hath i wrought 😭
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Even if you disbelieve drag’s identity, they are NOT the reason transphobia exists. TRANSPHOBES are the reason transphobia exists.
Every marginalized group has some faction that is willing the throw another smaller or more marginalized group under the bus. There are gays trying to claim legitimacy by fighting trans rights, and binary trans folks are saying we’d be a lot farther if nbs didn’t exist. This is just pandering to people who already hate us in the hopes that we can distract them from ourselves for a little while. It doesn’t work and it hurts people who should be our allies.
You mention the kitty litter thing, but you know that was fully a lie, right? It was there in case of an active shooter situation, and the people upset about it weren’t gesturing to people like drag, but to furries, most of whom (in reality) are just enjoying playing pretend. They will make up lies and people to get mad about with or without those people, so how could drag possibly be making this worse?
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If you are trans then your existence is ammo to transphobes. That’s kinda just… how it works.
Did you read my comment at all?
“I don’t have a problem with trans people”
-process to list all their problems with trans people
Wow, way to prove drag’s bloody point.
You’re why they get dehumanized and divided from society.
Uh no, that would be the people doing the dehumanising ya donkey.
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Fuck off transphobe
So anyone not within your frame of “people” is just trolling and shitting on people. damn, truly “token-effort”
judge what we don’t understand, instead of letting people just live.
Drag here isn’t harming anyone, and seemingly understands the confusion people get, and is not judging.
You know… your comment is precisely what has and will be said about trans people that conform to the gender roles, and NB’s that don’t fit inside them. It’s the thing terf say when “men go into bathroom! it’s horrible!”
Don’t be a part of the problem plz
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I disagree. There are abundant cis women and cis men who go to malls, schools, bars, and streets wearing clothes that they believe make themselves look sexy. If using someone’s sexually charged custom pronouns is considered participating in kink then I’d argue going outside wearing anything vaguely sexual like a crop top is also the same level of participating in kink and that is simply accepted by society.
Thank you for outlining this, I’ve never really thought about it that way
Just existing or looking appealing to sexual partners is not kink nor limited to cis individuals. What an awful argument. This individual is expecting others to help with their personal sexual arousal and playing victim when they refuse to participate. They are a goddamn sex pest.
I used cis individuals as representative of the majority (who accepts themselves) rather than an exclusive group.
The difference between a kink and a social custom is how much we’re used to it
Have to ask, what’s this kink?
I’ll assume it’s not neopronouns, as that’s just pronouns? And tbh I do not know drag, so I hadon’t know if there is anything else you’re referring to?
Dragon Fucking, apparently, and their pronoun is an extension of that.
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Drag uses drag/dragself pronouns because drag is a dragon rider. Drag has been in relationships with many dragons, both platonic and romantic. Even when drag was single, being a dragon rider was still part of drag.
“You can take the dog out of the fight but you can’t take the fight out of the dog” or something.
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Actually, drag identifies as a dragon rider. Drag’s partner is the dragon.
The moment someone uses “I identify as […]”, lots of people get their panties in a bunch.
