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    Maybe they hired the wrong person for the job. This could happen with any worker no matter their country of origin.

    Maybe they’re a shit manager whose expectations are not clear and who provides no training.

    Maybe the employee is going through something at home that is impacting their work. It’s a good manager’s responsibility to know their workers and give them grace.

    Racism is just a lazy person’s excuse for not analyzing the complexities of the situation.

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        If I talk about some white man I hired, and I said he sucked, that is also racism?

        It is if you specifically mentioned that he’s white, yes. The problem is that you’re openly stating your biases as being important to the story. However your biases are exactly that, biased. You don’t know if they’re relevant or not, but you feel it necessary to say anyway. That’s prime prejudice. You don’t know their education, history, family life, economic situation, or any number of other factors that could come in to play. But you assign importance and blame to the fact they’re Indian. Racist.

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            But you skipped over 100 other qualities they shared and instantly focused on their race. The fact that you don’t even realize your bias is what makes is so pervasive. You don’t even realize you did it, and here you are arguing that you’re not responsible.

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        When they call all Indian immigrants incompetent because they work with a couple Indian people who suck, that’s textbook racist.

        Otherwise, I could call all white people stupid, all Latinos insecure and lazy and all black people pushy. But, I don’t because I know their race, color or many other unrelated traits have fuck all to do with one person’s performance.

        If you’re generalizing about a population based a few people, you are racist.

        Based your other comments, you are pretty damn racist. Time for a look in the mirror.

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            Oh, fuck off.

            Nobody is arguing that opinions aren’t allowed.

            They shared their experience in racist terms. There’s no reason to bring up that they’re Indian. Your dating example is stupid and it would be sexist. How thick are you?

            Generalization is bad.

            You’re racist. Face it and deal with it.

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    Sorry but sometimes the truth seems racist. I was working at a OPG solar farm and in - 30c there were 2 middle Easterners not dressed for the weather and not doing ANY work. Months on end they would just sit down and do nothing all day. And when ya asked them they would say, were doing a good thing by “working” there.

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      Sorry but sometimes racism seems like the truth to racists.

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        In my last job, my manager said something along the lines of, “Client X is a cheapskate. It’s not socially appropriate, but I know [stereotype] are all cheapskates.”

        I asked why is it a problem that they’re asking for the lowest price.

        Thats when someone said, “My wife is [stereotype] and she buys expensive things.”

        Of which, without even switching, went, “Yeah but she’s a woman. I mean [stereotype] men are cheapskates.” And everyone nodded in agreement.

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          So why is that you picked Indian as being the common attribute among them? Why didn’t you say “a few married workers were terrible”, or “workers with 3 kids”, or “people over 50”? Why did you instantly jump to them being Indian to be the single defining attribute?

          THAT is prime racism.

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              Right, but they were also under 6’ tall. Or were politically left-leaning. Or had dark hair. Or whatever other things they might share. Why didn’t you emphasize that? Did it even cross your mind that maybe the socio-economic background might have more influence on their work ethic than what country they happened to be born in?

              You didn’t even think twice about any of those factors and settled firmly on “Indian” as the single defining thing among them. That’s racism buried so deep you don’t even recognize it.

              I feel a bit bad for people like you. The first step in becoming a better person is recognizing your biases, accepting them, and trying to overcome them. You’re just in utter denial.

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          It’s about the way it’s phrased. If you imply that the cause of their incompetence is the fact that they are Indian, well yeah that’s racist.

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          I appreciate that someone gets it. I am the least racist person, I know plenty of useless Canadians too and have worked with useless Americans too