• gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works
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      Before unions were a thing, if a workforce wanted a raise, it was traditional to say “hey boss, give us a raise, or we’ll burn your fucking factory down”

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        And now that they’ve made unions all but illegal, we’ll eventually return to that trusted tradition.

        Either we settle things collectively and politely, or we settle things not so politely.

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          This was the whole purpose of our founding fathers.

          Kings were getting beheaded. They knew enough that if they didn’t want to watch their backs constantly, they needed to spread power thin.

          It’s the point of good faith in government. It goes back to the Code of Hammurabi. We have these laws so that we can all mostly agree on how things should be handled in a reasonable way.

          When people can’t rely on laws and justice, eventually blood spills.

          These people have been so intent on gathering money and power, they haven’t realized why the founding fathers did the exact opposite.

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            When people can’t rely on laws and justice, eventually blood spills.

            Agreed. It’s pretty much just a question of how long “eventually” is.

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            I thought the purpose of the US founding fathers was to gain power to prevent the British government from having a say in abolishing slavery. Also so they could ignore the treaty the British made with the Indigenous peoples living to the west of the 13 colonies. They wanted that land and didn’t like those assholes in London preventing westward expansion via genocide.

            These people have been so intent on gathering money and power, they haven’t realized why the founding fathers did the exact opposite.

            You might be surprised about how consistent they are with the “Founding Fathers” by saying some nice words about “freedom” while their actions say the opposite. The American Revolution didn’t fundamentally alter things (slavery existed before and after the revolution) it only changed who was in power. Pretty words on a paper didn’t give people freedom. It was people voting, unionizing, and oh yeah, a bloody civil war that brought freedom. And then even more voting and unionizing and protesting for over a century.

            The US is a weird place not too dissimilar from the society depicted in 1984, just with Big Brother replaced by Founding Father. Founding Father isn’t watching over you. Founding Father was hypocritical slave-master that would have more in common with the likes of Elon Musk than they would ever have with you.

            Writing nice words about freedom while acquiring wealth from the work of slaves, isn’t that consistent with Elon Musk?

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        Molotov cocktails remain a cheap and effective workforce bargaining tool. 2nd amendment silenced handguns just got added to that tool belt.

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      Eh I think it does us a disservice to call the rich idiots. Sure some are, but strips agency from them for the real damage they do.

      Elon is at least smart enough to turn his emerald slave money into billions.

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        That’s not a sign of intelligence, it’s just that he had so much money, he could afford to fail a bunch of times, so he could get lucky every once in a while

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          And this pattern holds across a shitload of rich people too. Singers who could afford to not have to have that waitress job and just focus on promotion. ‘Entrepreneurs’ who got ‘small’ ‘loans’ to start their 10th business that finally hit. Real estate moguls who had actual intelegnt people bring them plans they rubber stamped and claimed to be brilliant businessmen.

          They are rich so they must be smart is the biggest pile of bullshit.

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        They’re dumb, not handicapped. An idiot is still culpable for the damage they do. We’re all just lucky they aren’t smart enough to effect their malice.