• givesomefucks@lemmy.worldOP
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    Speaking with comedian Troy Iwata for a recent segment on The Daily Show, Violent J confirmed that Harris is his preferred pick for the White House, saying “I want her to win because she’s a Democrat, and I love my mom.”

    Say what you want about Juggalos, but this is likely to get Kamala significant votes.

    More than Dick Cheney or Lizzo (look up the lawsuits from last year if you don’t know).

    I’d even say this is bigger than Eminem the other day. Juggalos are a very close knit group, and if Violent J says vote, they’re gonna vote.

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    The Daily Show segment

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hf3n5A4uLsk

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      Especially since the juggalo crowd is by and large rurally based, they overlap a large generally Republican Voting demographic.

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        But I also think many of them are nonvoting,

        And even if they don’t watch the whole episode, they’ll watch that clip because he’s in it.

        That’s what outreach should be, reaching out to people who’s values align with the Dem voting base, but aren’t politically active

        Not changing the candidates policy in an attempt to “win over” people who vote Republican.

        It’s easier to get someone who agrees with you to vote, then get a voter who doesn’t agree with you to vote for you.

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          It’s easier to get someone who agrees with you to vote, then get a voter who doesn’t agree with you to vote for you.

          but it’s also doubly effective to convert a voter than creating a new one, because you gain a vote AND your opponent loses a vote.

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        As for women’s rights, he believes in them (“they have the right to be the fuckin’ shit”), and as for environmental conservation, he thinks its time humans get over their superiority complex, saying, “Let me tell you what a superior animal is: a whale.”

        American politics are so fucked that actual clowns have become the voice of reason.

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        Isn’t that a bit late? I’m 36 and ICP seemed like a thing for the age bracket above me growing up. Or did the whole magnets meme push their demo to a lower age bracket or something?

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          some artists pick up new fans with every generation. see also: michael jackson, the beatles, ozzy, hendrix, slayer, etc.

          it’s kind of hilarious to me, being a 80s/90s kid, that of all the acts that were HUGE in the 90s (collective soul, smashing pumpkins, alanis morrisete, REM, etc), ICP is one of the few still in the news

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            I mean, as a GenXer it kinda makes sense to me that the biggest GenX bands are not about trying to stay in headlines. 🤷‍♂️

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              Smashing Pumpkins is back, and banks like RHCP and Radiohead just never stopped making (at least decent, some great) new records.

              But yeah if the drugs didn’t get them, the attitudes to it a lot of spotlight from those bands.

              However, The number of teens wearing Nirvana clothes recently has been fun to see. And being told I wouldn’t understand why a teen would like their songs is fucking hilariously (as I was a young teen when they came out). I wonder how long it’s going to last though.

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      I haven’t exactly spent a lot of time in Juggalo circles, but the few I have met have all been great people, the types of people who would literally give you the shirt off their back without a second thought. Generally not the brightest bulbs out there, but they also tend to be the rare type of person who can recognize that about themselves and are willing to seek out and listen to people who are more knowledgeable (unless we’re talking about scientists and magnets) which is actually pretty amazing, that’s not a common quality to find in any group of people

      I generally kind of think of juggalos as those kids in school who were a little too weird to be “normal” kids, and not smart enough to be “nerds” some of them have some issues, maybe more than average, but most of them are just trying to get by with what they’ve got.

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    Juggalos have always been weirdly wholesome and okay as people. Yeah, it’s a weird subculture to me. But not bad. The biggest negative I can say about the juggalos that I’ve met is that they all want to talk about ICP and marijuana all the time. But they treat people decently, and seem to be fairly progressive. I can live with that.

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    by the terms of the juggalo-furry alliance, the furs are called to also vote

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    This will almost assuredly get her more votes than literally all of the press and air time Cheney has offered her.

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    Makes sense, Juggalos hate fascists and despite Kamala being a cop, Trump is the bigger fascist.

    Although it is weird to see Eminem and ICP on the same side of something.

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      Although it is weird to see Eminem and ICP on the same side of something

      I was curious so I looked it up.

      In 1997 Eminem put out flyers for a show that said “with ICP (maybe)”

      And they got kind of pissed about that, which they have a right to. But they’ve been over it for 20 years now.

      Fucking crazy it’s 2024 and that was almost 30 years ago.

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        I would have shown up if I were them-surprise Eminem at his own show and support the Michigan music scene at once.

        Edit: perhaps not just the Michigan music scene, I assumed this was before Eminem got big, but 1997 is definitely after his big break

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          1997 was before his big break. At this point, he was Rap Olympics famous, not signed to Dr. Dre famous.

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    Fucking MAGAs, how do they work?

    No really, how do you function being so god damn stupid you think a man who qualifies for being the Beast of Revelation is God’s Chamion?

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    “According to the National Gang Intelligence Center, there are more than one million self-proclaimed Juggalos across the United States. It is estimated that 85–90% of self-described Juggalos are peaceful, non-criminal music fans. The other 10–15% make up the Juggalo subculture’s criminal element”

    a million.

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    As an old wrestling fan from the late 90s, how did 2024 manage to make me cheer for the ICP while booing the undertaker and Steve Austin?

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      They hold a music festival every year called the gathering of the juggalos, usually somewhere in the Midwest, that attracts around 10k people per year. They’re not a huge underground culture in America but they are there and disproportionately higher populations living in Midwest and Central swing states. Most of the juggalos I’ve met are kind and just want to get high and listen to music about horror movies and wrestling and stuff like that. They have been anti-science and education in the past in their anti-establishment rhetoric which is probably the worst part of the subculture.

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      their dedicated following, known as Juggalos, is in the tens of thousands. Gatherings for ICP fans have drawn upwards of 20,000 people. Juggalos are known for their distinctive style, which includes face paint, clown costumes, and hatchet symbols. They’ve also developed their own slang and idioms. The National Gang Intelligence Center estimates that there are over one million self-proclaimed Juggalos in the United States, but 85–90% of them are non-criminal music fans.

      That a lot of voters, I wouldn’t say no to. And for some reason Ive found out that a lot of conservatives in the u.s think juggalos are a crazy street gang like in the warriors