Sadly in American politics it is, if you support anti-imperialism or the end of capitalism tyranny that makes you a radical leftist (according to the shit libs). I say we wear that as a bage of honor, I am a proud radical leftist.
Yes, yes you can. Our shit political system means you have to pick one of 2 options, almost every anti-genocide person I have met is voting for her. This is because they aren’t idiots, and understand that Trump is far worse, and a non-voter is a Trump voters. You act like you have to love a candidate to vote for them, and that you aren’t allowed to want a candidate to be better.
I’m not saying anything against voting her because I’m not an American, so i obviously can’t vote there.
I’m just calling out how weird fucks act like what’s already happening isn’t crazy. Both biden and kamala are complicit in the genocide and I will keep saying it. But lemmy crowd always goes to voting, I don’t understand. People outside America also use lemmy.
But lemmy crowd always goes to voting, I don’t understand
How the fuck do you not understand? There’s an election to replace the very position you’re complaining about coming up in a couple of weeks, and you don’t see the relevance??
Ok, but you’re here talking about it, so now it’s your problem too. Either take like 20 seconds to think about it, or shut the fuck up about our country.
You are american. You deal with Trump. Leave the palestinians alone. They are not responsible for your shit political system. Fix your goddamn country.
Everyone here knows you don’t care one whit about genocide, BananaBrain.
You aren’t raising money for any political action group or charity. You won’t go door to door or work a phone bank to raise awareness. You won’t do ONE. SINGLE. THING. to actually make a difference.
Each night you go to bed, you’ll smile thinking about all the comments you wrote on Lemmy that day, and how many people must be so impressed by your noble anti-genocide stance, all while Trump turns the remaining Palestinian territory to glass.
Your inability to understand the complexity of the situation and your desperation to boil it down into a small, singular point demonstrates it perfectly.
You realize that sounds like a threat, right? You are american, trump is american, harris is american, you all side with genocide… Fuck you, you genocidal cunt. Yanks are subhumans lol
Ah yes “it’s not me you should worry about I’m just the messenger. It’s my boss who’s gonna set your country afire if you don’t pay”.
Again, fuck off. Yanks have never changed their external policy. You guys spam shit about your elections every four years. Don’t whine foreigners are playing the both-side game when the both of them are doing the exact same shit.
Also I hope you guys pays for the US made two-tons bombs they dropped on hospitals. It’s highly illegal to send weapons to genociders, even by US laws.
If a people are being genocided and you still have difficulties seeing the black and white clearly, that’s on you. It couldn’t be more black or white than this, the side doing the genocide is always black until it stops doing the genocide. I’m a simple man, doing genocide=black in any context, always.
You should get some learnin then. Because what you just said is stupid as hell. Both candidates support genocide here, but one does so reluctantly and is open to peace while the other wants more killing more faster. If you still don’t see the difference, not only are you stupid, you have no moral conscience and you’re willing to let more people die just so you can feel smug.
That’s a problem for the Israeli state to solve, not me. There have been many ways in my view, but that’s not relevant to the question of commiting genocide. I don’t need to be an expert in order to categorically oppose genocide. There’s not a thing you can say that the Palestinians have done, real or imaginary, which would make a genocide defendable to a human being in touch with their humanity.
There’s no reason at all to discuss anything other than stopping the genocide in the current context. You don’t discuss possible long term solutions while a genocide is ongoing. After Israel stops commiting genocide, there’ll perhaps be room to discuss what to do going forward, but while it’s ongoing, there’s only one thing worth discussing: How to stop Israel commiting genocide.
Ah yes, opposing genocide is a radical far-left position. Of course.
Sadly in American politics it is, if you support anti-imperialism or the end of capitalism tyranny that makes you a radical leftist (according to the shit libs). I say we wear that as a bage of honor, I am a proud radical leftist.
Ok but please vote for Harris, as she is far closer to your political beliefs than Trump.
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Yanks are subhumans.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_complicity_in_Israeli_war_crimes_in_the_Israel–Hamas_war
And you are here, fuckhead. I hope you guys pays. I hope we bomb new york like we did to belgrade when they did genocide.
Dude seems to think they’re part of some secret grassroots movement of genocide haters that no one else has ever heard of or something.
Hey look, a Trump
voterenablerNow everyone in Gaza will be safe!
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What are you saying? That First-past-the-post voting doesn’t appropriately represent the people of the USA?
Yeah no shit, but “fixing our electoral system” is not what we’re voting on this election.
Weird ass fantasizers. We all know trumps position but acting like what’s currently happening is tame is insane.
Not an American but both sides are so fucking weird
You can be vocal against her stance in this conflict and still vote for her. Not voting for her because of Gaza worsens the conflict.
Yes, yes you can. Our shit political system means you have to pick one of 2 options, almost every anti-genocide person I have met is voting for her. This is because they aren’t idiots, and understand that Trump is far worse, and a non-voter is a Trump voters. You act like you have to love a candidate to vote for them, and that you aren’t allowed to want a candidate to be better.
I’m not saying anything against voting her because I’m not an American, so i obviously can’t vote there.
I’m just calling out how weird fucks act like what’s already happening isn’t crazy. Both biden and kamala are complicit in the genocide and I will keep saying it. But lemmy crowd always goes to voting, I don’t understand. People outside America also use lemmy.
How the fuck do you not understand? There’s an election to replace the very position you’re complaining about coming up in a couple of weeks, and you don’t see the relevance??
I don’t live in America. That’s a you problem.
Ok, but you’re here talking about it, so now it’s your problem too. Either take like 20 seconds to think about it, or shut the fuck up about our country.
You are american. You deal with Trump. Leave the palestinians alone. They are not responsible for your shit political system. Fix your goddamn country.
Oh man I’m sorry, let me personally just go tell Biden to stop arms sales.
You can contact the white house on their website.
I mean that would be a good start yes. https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
Everyone here knows you don’t care one whit about genocide, BananaBrain.
You aren’t raising money for any political action group or charity. You won’t go door to door or work a phone bank to raise awareness. You won’t do ONE. SINGLE. THING. to actually make a difference.
Each night you go to bed, you’ll smile thinking about all the comments you wrote on Lemmy that day, and how many people must be so impressed by your noble anti-genocide stance, all while Trump turns the remaining Palestinian territory to glass.
Congratulations! You’ve just proven the meme.
Your inability to understand the complexity of the situation and your desperation to boil it down into a small, singular point demonstrates it perfectly.
I was talking to a girl in beyruth. Her parents were bombed with white phosphorus. The conflict seemed pretty straightforward to me.
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You realize that sounds like a threat, right? You are american, trump is american, harris is american, you all side with genocide… Fuck you, you genocidal cunt. Yanks are subhumans lol
Of course it’s a threat, but it’s not my threat. It’s what Trump is saying.
Ah yes “it’s not me you should worry about I’m just the messenger. It’s my boss who’s gonna set your country afire if you don’t pay”.
Again, fuck off. Yanks have never changed their external policy. You guys spam shit about your elections every four years. Don’t whine foreigners are playing the both-side game when the both of them are doing the exact same shit.
Also I hope you guys pays for the US made two-tons bombs they dropped on hospitals. It’s highly illegal to send weapons to genociders, even by US laws.
Then execute trump dumbass. He’s a nazi.
For once, we agree. He should be hanged for insurrection at the very least.
And he will not. They need the strawman. He is the stick. She’s the carrot. You’re a donkey. No offense.
You did it! You called me a donkey! Good job.
Ah yes, this is definitely a simple conflict with an easily identifiable black-and-white solution.
If a people are being genocided and you still have difficulties seeing the black and white clearly, that’s on you. It couldn’t be more black or white than this, the side doing the genocide is always black until it stops doing the genocide. I’m a simple man, doing genocide=black in any context, always.
You should get some learnin then. Because what you just said is stupid as hell. Both candidates support genocide here, but one does so reluctantly and is open to peace while the other wants more killing more faster. If you still don’t see the difference, not only are you stupid, you have no moral conscience and you’re willing to let more people die just so you can feel smug.
Yeah I’m the one with no moral conscience. Re-create a chapter of the weather underground or something, idk. You suck.
Clearly.
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That doesn’t even make any sense.
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I wouldn’t know buddy I have my shit together I use celcius.
Let me get my flamigel coz its such a weak burn
How would you suggest Israel combat Hamas then, since you’re such a simple man and this is such a simple conflict?
So in order of realistic:
That’s a problem for the Israeli state to solve, not me. There have been many ways in my view, but that’s not relevant to the question of commiting genocide. I don’t need to be an expert in order to categorically oppose genocide. There’s not a thing you can say that the Palestinians have done, real or imaginary, which would make a genocide defendable to a human being in touch with their humanity.
There’s no reason at all to discuss anything other than stopping the genocide in the current context. You don’t discuss possible long term solutions while a genocide is ongoing. After Israel stops commiting genocide, there’ll perhaps be room to discuss what to do going forward, but while it’s ongoing, there’s only one thing worth discussing: How to stop Israel commiting genocide.
Also starting by not parking native in reserves would be a good start.