LEBANON, Ohio (WCMH) — Ohio’s Republican candidate for U.S. Senate questioned why a certain group of women would be concerned about abortion during an event in the state.

NBC4 obtained a video recording from a Warren County town hall on Friday, where GOP Senate hopeful Bernie Moreno accused suburban women of being focused solely on their ability to get an abortion.

“You know, the left has a lot of single issue voters,” Moreno said. “Sadly, by the way, there’s a lot of suburban women, a lot of suburban women that are like, ‘Listen, abortion is it. If I can’t have an abortion in this country whenever I want, I will vote for anybody else.’ … OK. It’s a little crazy by the way, but — especially for women that are like past 50 — I’m thinking to myself, ‘I don’t think that’s an issue for you.'”

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    That may be so, but you can’t just get rid of laws because they could be used unjustly.

    You absolutely can, and should.

    Law is supposed to be a mechanism to provide justice. If the outcome of a law is injustice, it fails fundamentally at what law is supposed to do and should be discarded. That doesn’t mean a just version of the law couldn’t be crafted, but if we, as a society, let unjust laws stand, then just laws will never be crafted. So yes, get rid of unjust laws.

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      Unjust laws can and should be eliminated, but people using laws unjustly cannot. Speeding is a crime, but it is not perfectly enforced. Cops let family members go more often, good looking people, people they identify with, etc. Speeding is a just law that is not always enforced in a just way. This is always the case.

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        Your example ignores the consequences to those accused and convicted which negates the value of using it as your argument.

        The worst someone will suffer from indiscriminate speed ticket enforcement will be a sub $500 fee.

        The worst someone will suffer from indiscriminate “illegal miscarriage” enforcement is prison, loss of livelihood, with the knock-on effect of death of the accused from trying to avoid being charged with the unjust law.

        There’s a drastic difference between those two examples, and trying to use the same brush to paint them the same is counterproductive, wouldn’t you agree?

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          Ok how about murder? Guy murders someone by hitting them when he is drunk. Rich guy with a good lawyer and connections in the community gets community service, but the poor, black man with a pot possession misdemeanor when he was 15 gets life in prison.

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            Now you’re citing two laws instead of one with selective enforcement which is what we were talking about.

            Ok how about murder? Guy murders someone by hitting them when he is drunk. Rich guy with a good lawyer and connections in the community gets community service, but the poor,

            Murder is one law. Someone convicted of murder isn’t getting community service. Someone could have murdered someone and been charged with a lesser crime for whatever reason, but then they’d be getting community service for whatever that lesser charge was, not murder. So the law for murder in your example isn’t flawed.

            black man with a pot possession misdemeanor when he was 15 gets life in prison.

            Pot possession is a different law, and I don’t know any state in the union that will give you 15 years in prison for one. A quick google search says 180 days in jail is the max for most misdemeanors and I found one reference that says that in 24 states the max is 1 year in jail (still not prison).

            Your examples are getting farther from relevance not closer. I think we’ve reached the end of productive conversation with one another on this topic so I’ll bow out. Thank you for talking with me up to now. Have a great day!