• Seleni@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    10
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    4 days ago

    Babies are work. They are constant, screaming, pooping, work. Not even 9-5 work, because a very young infant requires around-the-clock care, so really it’s worse than work.

    At least in a regular job you can punch out and leave work at the office and go home and relax, or call in sick if you don’t feel good. None of that with a baby. You have to always be there for them, all day, all night, no matter what, no matter how you feel.

    I think we’re also running into an issue of language, however. ‘Time Off’, as in, not being in the office for an extended period of time, yes, maternity leave is that. ‘Time Off’ as in, a rest, relaxation, vacation, no. Maternity leave is most definitely not that.

    • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      10
      ·
      4 days ago

      I looked after a baby. First two weeks were very difficult. After that you get used to the routine and I definitely wouldn’t call that time “work” - it was a pleasure being able to spend time with my child. It was definitely a time off - I didn’t have to go to work every day, I had time to get some more time for myself etc.

      • Seleni@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 days ago

        Yeah, but you couldn’t just hall off to the Bahamas or whatever; you were still glued to the kid. Still looking after them 24/7.

        Yes, it becomes routine, but It’s still a routine, you still have a lot to do, and again, no call-outs, you’re on-call all day. It may not be a ‘job’, but it is still work.

        • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          4 days ago

          you couldn’t just hall off to the Bahamas or whatever

          You absolutely can, with a child.

          It may not be a ‘job’, but it is still work

          Nope. Of course you can define “work” as anything you do, including brushing your teeth and watching telly if you want - but looking after the baby is not something I would ever describe as “work”.

          • Zip2@feddit.uk
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            5
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            You get maternity pay to feed/wash/whatever another human being.

            Carers have been doing this for years. It’s work. It’s even a career for some people.

          • Seleni@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            4
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            3 days ago

            American Heritage Dictionary; Work, definition:

            Physical or mental effort or activity directed toward the production or accomplishment of something. ”Cleaning the basement was a lot of work."

            Such effort or activity by which one makes a living; employment. ”looking for work."

            Again, kids are work. And since, as another lemming pointed out, some people do it as an actual job, it counts under both definitions.

            And if you do hie off to the Bahamas, you still have to bring that work along. You can’t just leave it behind and just have a relaxing vacation with nothing to do. (Unless you find a babysitter, but then you’re not doing the work of childcare anymore; now you’re using maternal leave for something that isn’t work).

            • FelixCress@lemmy.worldOP
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              3
              ·
              3 days ago

              Again, kids are work

              Again, you are wrong.

              And if you do hie off to the Bahamas, you still have to bring that work along

              What work sweetheart, since you just took a year off work?