The United States on September 13 said the Russian news outlet RT is taking orders directly from the Kremlin and working with Russian military intelligence to spread disinformation around the world to undermine democracies.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the United States has gathered new evidence that exposes cooperation between RT and four other subsidiaries of the Rossia Segodnya media group, and it intends to warn other countries of the threat of the disinformation.

In addition to RT, Rossia Segodnya operates RIA Novosti, TV-Novosti, Ruptly, and Sputnik, but the announcement on September 13 focused largely on RT. The outlet, formerly known as Russia Today, has previously been sanctioned for its work to allegedly spread Kremlin propaganda and disinformation.

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    Hypotheticals don’t have to exist, that’s what makes them useful. Is it possible that an axe murder could have kids? Of course it is, they can have sperm, right? So, it’s a workable hypothetical. We can then use it to illustrate how actions that hurt innocents are not necessarily right, just to punish someone related to those innocents.

    We don’t need to ask the axe murderer anything either, we can check birth records. Like with the US covid propaganda scheme, we don’t have to believe the govt, we can check international news sources if we like.

    You can conveniently forget about independent information sources, but that doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

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      I think your either avoiding what I’m saying or misunderstanding. This whole conversation is based on USA accusing Russia. Just like your axe murderer accusing another murderer. The whole point is when your a psychotic genocider, your opinions and statements should be rightfully ignored.

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        Ah, I think we get to the crux of the matter, you seem not to perceive any innocents being harmed. You perhaps see the US as a single evil entity, and not a collection of disagreeing people living on a chunk of land.

        Not if we care about truth vs falsehood, objective fact vs made up things, and an understandable world we can all fairly discuss. Even an axe murderer should be allowed to testify in his own defence. What if he is merely accused of axe murder, and the evidence has been fabricated and planted by corrupt police?

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          Well unfortunately there are no international courts of law that USA would submit to. The only one, the ICC, they have literally threatened to invade if they did any kind of investigation into the GENOCIDAL CRIMES of the USA. So your argument that a court should prove it is moot since USA would nuke the court. Which is why I also find it hilarious that USA talks about rule of law when they actively threaten to wipe Brussels off the face of the earth.

          *Edit: Oh man even Harvard is mocking them for that.

          https://scholar.harvard.edu/ksikkink/blog/“invade-hague”-“support-icc”-america’s-shifting-stance-international-criminal-court

          Also, I’m not talking about USA as in it’s people, I’m talking about the US government. Sorry I did not make that clear. After all, it’s not Joe Schmo talking about RT spreading propaganda.

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            Eh, don’t believe everything our more asshole legislators say. With a little luck they’ll get thrown out over the next decade for supporting Trump, going down with the sinking ship.

            For better or for worse, they can say whatever they want. Even that Haitians are eating people’s pets and shit. lol It’s just bluster from small-dicked people compensating for their fear and insecurity, trying to gin up support from the fascist wing.

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              It’s not what they said. It’s an actual bill. We nicknamed it the Invade Hague act. We literally have a law that says we will kill Europeans if they investigate our war crimes such as murdering children. Even the Australians recently took away medals for the horrible war crimes they committed.

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                Oh, that one. We tried to repeal it in 2022, we just need a few more votes and we can strike it from the books. Neocons gonna neocon, GWB was a dick.

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                  The fact that the US can’t repeal a horrifying violation of international law is well… I think we’ve made a full circle. When the US says ANYTHING we shouldn’t believe them and should doubt them.

                  I think we got off on the wrong foot. My statement wasn’t actually about Russia, it was about the US and how horrible they are and how the world really needs to think twice before agreeing to anything USA says.

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                    Yes, I believe I understand you now. My focus is on doing what I can while standing with my loved ones, who are all also Americans, of the less crazy variety.