• SadSadSatellite @lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    2 months ago

    I know everyone is here for the same thing, and we’ve all been correcting this image since it showed up five years ago, but an Americano is not a black coffee.

    It is however, coffee that is black, but if I ordered one and got the other, I’d know somethings up.

    Also, I really don’t know why people drink americano. To me they just taste like cigarettes, but I’m currently drinking chicory so my opinion is moot.

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      2 months ago

      An Americano isn’t coffee.

      It’s a watered down espresso.

      The only reason it exists is because Americans visiting Europe would ask for coffee, and many euro coffee shops only had espresso, so they just added hot water to espresso and that was close enough for the tourists.

      At least, that was what I heard.

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        2 months ago

        I’m confused now, because espresso is also coffee? Like, it’s all made from coffee beans. I agree that Americano is espresso with water, but to me that is absolutely a kind of coffee.

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          2 months ago

          It’s confusing since espresso is a type of coffee, and coffee (aka “drip coffee”) is a completely different type of coffee.

          Coffee is both a class of item, and also a specific item within the class.

          If you say coffee, it could mean the class of all kinds of coffee, or you could be referring specifically to the coffee item in the class coffee. If you say espresso, it’s still in the class coffee, but it’s a specific type of coffee that cannot be conflated with a different kind of coffee.

          English sucks.

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          2 months ago

          In the US coffee = filter coffee, espresso = espresso

          In Italy coffee = espresso, dirty water = filter coffee

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      2 months ago

      As an American living in Europe for over a decade, Americano is the default I have to drink when I’m out unless I go to a hipster coffee shop. The main reason being practically no one does filter coffee, but almost every restaurant has an espresso machine.

      And it tastes like cigarettes because even though every restaurant has an espresso machine it doesn’t mean they clean it, and doesn’t mean their staff knows how to use it properly. Water temps too high, too much coffee grounds, over compressed, lowest quality beans. Fucking everywhere. It’s awful.

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        2 months ago

        even though every restaurant has an espresso machine it doesn’t mean they clean it, and doesn’t mean their staff knows how to use it properly. Water temps too high, too much coffee grounds, over compressed, lowest quality beans. Fucking everywhere. It’s awful.

        And this is why, as an Italian, I can’t drink espresso anywhere in the world. 9/10 is just awful

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      2 months ago

      an Americano is not a black coffee.

      It is however, coffee that is black,

      Hold on now, I’m not getting this. What meaning could “black coffee” possibly have other than a coffee that is black?

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        2 months ago

        It’s color is black, but it’s not black the type. Cold brew, espresso, and chickory are also blackthe color, but they’re not what you ordered if you wanted black the type.

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          2 months ago

          I guess I’ve never really thought of “black” as a type of coffee. Where I live black usually just means you don’t want any milk in whatever type of coffee you ordered.

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      2 months ago

      For whatever reason, at the time Italian coffee names became so popular 15 or so years ago, coffee became either super intense or a dessert. I’m old and I just want a mild coffee like I used to drink before the fashion, not a super strong one. Call me a lightweight if you want, I don’t take pride in doing stimmulants.