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To be fair: an athlete holding the spear by the end and hurling it… somewhere by accelerating it through rotating the body like a hammer thrower does sound slightly dangerous.
Also, the farthest throw was actually 104.8 meters.
But… weren’t javelins originally designed to be dangerous?
True, but even the earliest commanders usually frowned on spears coming their way which were meant for the enemy.
You were also supposed to be able to hit your target.
I’m not picky, any target is fine. Boar, pheasant, peasant, doesn’t matter.
Yeah… but it might have been a good tactic for the really shitty javelin-throwers, so they could make up in range what they lacked in accuracy.
Much like guns, so the Olympic sports of shooting has very little with most guns the average gun owner would have.
This is true. That’s why you rarely see hunters use the hammer throw spinning technique used in Olympic shooting.
the technique:
using the technique holding the end of the javelin. Officials were so afraid of the out of control nature of the technique that the practice was banned through these rule specifications.
I’ve spent some time reading the Wikipedia article looking for the relevant part, I guess I was 10 mins early (didn’t get the chance to see your comment before that). Here’s the (probably) corresponding video, the first video result when searching for the freestyle javelin technique, in case it helps anyone: https://youtu.be/52rvqtiBoow?si=RiLjhJG2ttv-0s1W
found another one that includes some history 🙂
i was just curious about how many techniques could there be?! apparently lots!
sharp things really bother me, so watching that video was kinda painful
Interesante, gracias
The back end or the front end?
back.
it apparently requires some finesse like throwing an american football… there is a spiral technique employed for accuracy.
imagine throwing a football by pushing its long end.
Look at the videos posted above. They don’t hold it on the end like the OP claims. They hold it on the grip but spin and release like throwing a discus.
the correct technique is what i mention above, holding it in the middle and spiraling it. like a football.
i mention throwing the football by its end as an example of why you lose all control of the stick using that technique, and hence, why its illegal.
Longest throw, huh?
The javelin was officially redesigned in 1986 to limit its distance to keep it in the field, and to ensure it doesn’t land flat. They are likely only counting post-redesign throws.
It was in 1956 though, why would they count post-redesign throws?
It’s just a badly quoted fact.
Still the throw listed in the title is less than the one listed here. If it was broken before the change then it’s not the longest throw of the old generation as the title says.
Doesn’t count if not American.
…invented by American thrower Bud Held and developed and manufactured by his brother Dick…
Are we… are we just ignoring the fact that the guy making these was named “dick held”?
I find it more impressive that someone decided to name their sons dick and butt
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Leave Richard and Mary-Jane alone! The Held brothers don’t deserve the ridicule!
I’m not, I’m also imagining an alternate timeline where their last name was Holder instead of Held
I found the video!!!
Ah the eighties! Most of these kids have never seen RotN… It’s pretty offensive so hasn’t been shown in decades.
And nothing of value was lost, except perhaps the musical backing track to that one rap song.
According to Wiki, the modern javelin event has an “unlimited runup”. I, for one, would like to test that wording of the rules
iirc, they also moved the center of gravity so it couldn’t fly as far
People are too fast these days, I vote for Olympic runners having to wear weights
How about:
If they manage to become too fast again, we can maybe hold the event in a pool filled with 1m of water.
I’d love to see water sprints of various depths.
Excellent, I hear France already has one
Ooh, pool depth diss!
Instead of a parachute at the end of the line, hook them up to generators and let them power the lights in the cafeteria.
Javelin needs to be safe and stick within a reasonable field size to be an Olympic event. If runners were so fast they were tearing up the track and tossing debris into the audience, we would slow them down.
I vote for 200M exclusion circles where the Javelin throwers stand in the middle so they can throw using any method with no outside risk
One thrower inside the circle, another thrower outside the circle. Last man standing. Now I’m paying attention.
I say we bring back team sports - two or more groups throwing javelins at each other.
It can be payed either turn based or in real time.
… now that I think about it, with hammers & some body armour would be
even betternot as good but still fun.If we throw out the idea that the Games were meant to mark a cessation in hostilities, then let’s not go halfway.
Get the SCA in there with their plastic armour and rattan swords and let’s have 1:1 and M:M combat. I want chariot races. I want simulated boarding actions from ‘ships’. I want a new colosseum built every 4 years and events 24/7 to a roaring crowd punctuated only by the sound of pneumatic t-shirt cannons. When they’re done, use them for death-row criminals in actual gear to fight for PPV for victim compensation. MORTAL COMBAAAAAAAT
Full on gladiator combat games is absolutely on my late stage capitalism bingo card. UFC is a baby step on that path.
It’s way more profitable to keep athletes alive and build a brand around them
Well obviously you rig them so you have someone survive and become popular, but you have to take them out before their 10th fight/race so they don’t earn their freedom.
All sports would be better if they were full contact - especially golf. Hear me out.
Everybody goes at the same time; you get points for speed instead of number of shots. You can an use your clubs to attack other players, so pads and a helmet are needed. You play in the summer. You’re caddy also brings water and Gatorade. Heat stroke/exhaustion is a DQ.
Not exactly on point, but disturbingly close:
I agree, and it appears that I am not the only one
Uwe Hohn (East Germany) 1984, 104.8m throw:
Petra Felke (East Germany) 1988, 80.0m throw:
The Revenge of the Nerds technique?
Yeah, lots of movies from that era are problematic now. I’m not going to apologize for them, trivialize the problematic parts, or forget about them. All of those characters were gross parodies of stereotypes and that type of humor is no longer palatable to many people. But, this particular scene felt relatively devoid of any actual malice.
You left your SI in the link
What’s the SI?
A Google tracking code that tells them who clicked on whose links, so they can track your relationships and social movements on other websites.
Thanks friend.
The movie was funny when I was 13. It wasn’t funny when my kids were 13. That was over ten years ago.
Yeah, lots of movies from that era are problematic now. I’m not going to apologize for them, trivialize the problematic parts, or forget about them. All of those characters were gross parodies of stereotypes and that type of humor is no longer palatable to many people. But, this particular scene felt relatively devoid of any actual malice.
@Wolf314159
True. It only mocks gay peopleDoes it really? The whole group of main characters is a bunch of stereotypes, over the top affectations, and worn out tropes. This shows the group explicitly accepting Lamar for who they are and celebrating their accomplishments with a level of physical contact and intimacy that literally was making homophobes at the time cringe.
