Biden renews call for assault weapons ban after spate of July 4 shootings
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President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

President says ‘epidemic of gun violence is tearing our communities apart’ after mass shootings in Philadelphia, Fort Worth, Baltimore and Chicago

  • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    Here’s some info to educate yourself on the logistics I was speaking of - noncompliance with gun bans in New York, where even the county sheriffs refuse to enforce their “assault weapon” bans.

    https://hudsonvalleyone.com/2016/07/07/massive-noncompliance-with-safe-act/

    If those bans go so poorly in NY state, how well do you think they would work in states with more conservative populations?

    Additionally, there are states with “gun ban bans” coded into law already, making compliance with federal gun bans illegal. Obviously the Supremacy Clause would nullify those laws, but they tell you how the state will be unlikely to comply on a practical level. Shit ain’t gonna happen, no matter how much you fantasize it happening.

    • Lols [they/them]@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      i am shocked that the US police, let alone the new york police, known for their immense professional, legal and moral integrity, are refusing to enforce the laws already in place

      i am also shocked that your totally not generic reply that definitely addresses the point that the USA should obviously get rid of guns is just going ‘yeah well they arent right now!!’

      Additionally, there are states with “gun ban bans” coded into law already, making compliance with federal gun bans illegal. Obviously the Supremacy Clause would nullify those laws, but they tell you how the state will be unlikely to comply on a practical level. Shit ain’t gonna happen, no matter how much you fantasize it happening.

      see

      your disagreeing with the practicality of getting rid of guns does not, in fact, change the current conversation from being about how the usa should obviously get rid of guns, regardless of how difficult you lot will continue to make it ‘in any of our lifetime’

      by the way, did you figure out an excuse for why you framed the conversation as being about picking between fewer guns and better mental healthcare yet?*

      *did not realise you were not in fact the same guy i originally replied to

      • RaoulDook@lemmy.world
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        1 year ago

        You have me confused with someone else, I never said anything about mental healthcare. We definitely need better resources for all Americans to get help with that if they need it though.

        I’m opposed to gun bans because Freedom is more important than anything else, especially Security Theater. Banning “assault weapons” amounts to only Security Theater because only 3% or less of homicides in the USA involve rifles including “assault weapons” so it would not help anything but a possible small fraction of the overall violence. When you add the current small impact that they have on the overall amount of violence with the logistic nightmare of enforcing bans, and the unlikelyhood of any bans surviving Supreme Court review, it amounts to a hill of beans that accomplishes nothing except losing voters who value their liberty.