• AbidanYre@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            You said other manufacturers fail at “this” referring to the 12v battery dying, but the context here is a child being trapped in a car when that battery fails. If the 12v battery fails on any other car you simply pull the handle and the door opens.

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                4 months ago

                Ok fine, what other manufacturer traps someone inside when the battery fails?

                You mentioned the hidden latch on another thread. Should I bring my question over there instead? I may conflated two discussions because you’re up and down this post defending Tesla’s boneheaded decisions.

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                  “Should I bring my question over there instead?”

                  That’s usually what people do so conversations can actually be followed and come in a logical order…

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                    I don’t know. I don’t understand why you’re asking me this.

                    Because this article is about someone being trapped in a car when the battery died, and saying “it’s hard to tell when a battery is going to fail” skips over the fundamental problem of being unable to open the door when that happens.

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        What? No they aren’t. They almost always fail on a curve of power and voltage loss.

        Also, I didn’t look it up, but I’d be very surprised if the model Y tesla didn’t require (suggest and oem?) an AGM battery. It’s still lead, but due to how they’re made they can’t get a dead short in them like older regular lead acid batteries can once they get old, although it still isn’t very common for it to happen.

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            4 months ago

            No they aren’t. They degrade before they fail. If tesla wanted to provide a warning of a failing battery that pretty much always worked it could have wired in a load test and went off voltage drop under a heavier load.

            Testing if batteries are good or bad does not qualify a person to chart out battery degradation.

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                4 months ago

                Once again, I did this for a living, for a decade. We would constantly have cars with failed batteries, we would bring them in, charge them up, test them, they would pass, we’d send them on their way, and they would fail again

                I also test batteries and this just looks like you all didn’t test them well. Like you skipped the capacity test because it takes being hooked up for a long time instead of the test that takes 20 seconds to do.

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      Even if she did receive warnings, she’s a grandmother who easily could miss one of the many messages on the car. It’s just bad design.