• Comrade Spood@lemmyunchained.net
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    11
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    1 year ago

    They literally all copied the soviet union’s homework (Marxist-Leninism), there are other theories that haven’t had the chance to be tried. Like Council Communsim, Syndicalism, Libertarian Communism, Anarchism, etc. The failure of Marxist-Leninist countries proves Marxist-Leninism doesn’t work. It doesn’t prove that communism doesn’t work

    • Thyrian@ttrpg.network
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      The problem is: who is willing to bet their country on an experimental system that could turn out better but could also turn in a totalitarian system?

        • Thyrian@ttrpg.network
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          I guess, my current situation is just not bad enough, to want a revolution.

          But if one of the worse places in this world is gonna implementiert kommunism in a good way, I’ll be there and sign up for it.

          • Comrade Spood@lemmyunchained.net
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            ·
            1 year ago

            The Rojava Revolution in Syria, and the Zapatistas in Mexico seem to be promising. Not saying you should sign up for them or anything lol. But they are certainly worth looking at and learning from. Communism is experimental, and it’s important to look at attempts at it and learn from their mistakes and successes.

    • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Hmm thank you for your detailed info. And which communism would you perhaps try it out on a country scale?

      • Comrade Spood@lemmyunchained.net
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        I’m an anarcho-communist. I know response to that is you don’t think it’d work on a country scale because people believe you need a government to organize a national system. Syndicalism would be the best, or council communism. Ultimately I think they too run too much of a risk of corruption and totalitarianism, hence why I’m an anarchist. But I do think they’d be less prone to it than any authoritarian communism or even the capitalist systems we have now due to their decentralized nature

        • PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          1 year ago

          You have seen completely through me, but I didn’t mean to address that part. Every system has its flaws, and it defeats the purpose of my intention to you. I deeply respect that you responded to me (especially since you’re all put together with tankies usually, thus getting an awful rep automatically), I’m just curious about people’s reasons for choosing ideologies that aren’t the norm usually because there’s probably a right reason there. Thank you for this info again! :3

          • Comrade Spood@lemmyunchained.net
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            3
            ·
            1 year ago

            I want a system that provides for the people who make it function. And I see that communism, if used in a centralized government, gives too much power to the politicians. It’s a breeding ground for corruption and totalitarianism.

            So to me the logical answer to that is have as decentralized a government as possible. And I think, if given the chance, people can and will organize themselves without the need of managers, bosses, or politicians. But it has to be natural, the people have to choose it. The CNT-FAI in the context of the Spanish Civil War is a good example of this.

            But I know it’s hard for people to view things beyond their own experiences. I started off as a trotskyist and slowly transitioned to more and more decentralized ideologies. It took me awhile till I finally understood the concept of anarchism and its arguments for how it could work. Because like many, I thought that without a government people would descend into chaos. What helped me was finding real world examples of anarchism in practice, like the CNT-FAI, Makhnovista, and Zapatistas (although they don’t consider themselves anarchist)

      • Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Why does it need to be tried on a country scale? As a US citizen, unions, co-ops, and communes are a way to have a bit of it but on a very small scale.