Honestly they just wanna see their favorite team win since politics to libs is like a fucking sports game
Pretty much, and it’s such a ghoulish mentality where they’re willing to sacrifice hundreds of thousands of people’s lives to score some geopolitical win against Russia. These people are absolutely monstrous and they never gave a shit about the actual people living in Ukraine.
War is sports. Leaders are MCU superheroes. And political identities are Harry Potter houses.
O M G! You are being such a Ravenclaw right now.
It’s never about the source. It’s about the content.
Say what you will about kyivpost, you can’t deny they have great cartoons
My god the way they draw Putin is so fucking racist
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Kinda like how NY Post is trash but their headlines are amazing.
Add some more labels, and it’s like a Ben Garrison fever dream.
Lol, what the dude said and the headline are completely different 😂. The commander has a seemingly level headed take that there might very well be a stalemate, but the headline is so out of whack.
Kiyv Independent is basically Ukrainian version of Weekly World News. Pretty sure they brought us the Ghost of Kiyv banger as well.
They, and anyone else for that matter, should stop by our news megathread if they really wanted to have a nuanced discussion of the war, or any other geopolitical event such as the Niger situation.
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Where’s the meme?
Libs can’t see it
As always, the better memes are the comments
Here’s a dictionary definition of meme though:
an idea, behavior, style, or usage that spreads from person to person within a culture
Et cetera
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That being said, I think that the Donbas people have paid too much, in more than just coin. It is hard not to empathize their cause.
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why the people of the donbas didn’t appeal to the UN to establish independence
They did. No country outside of South Ossetia, itself an unrecognized country, recognized their independence. Sadly not even Cuba did when specifically asked. Yes that means Russia also didn’t. Despite significant internal pressure to do that (most significantly, by the communist party), Putin and Russian government hoped for peaceful resolution by the Minsk agreements. This turned out to be mistake since both west and Ukraine never intended to honor those agreements but used them to arm up Ukraine. Between 2014 and 2022 international situation changed significantly though, Ukraine buildup for the all out invasion of Donbas finally forced Russian govt to decide, either join the war or just watch as Donbas is massacred (and potentially risk political instablity in crucial time since it would be incredibly unpopular move which could easily lead to lose nationalist support for govt).
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I can’t see why Russia committed mass murder on civilian population.
They didn’t. Civilian losses are very low in that war, UN estimated it for around 10000 dead (for both sides). Compare it to when US Shock and Awe any country and kill milllions. Russia is incredibly restrained as far as the modern warfare goes.
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Expected? By whom? Liberals seems to expect millions because they as usual projected the US army standard. I said America not because some kind of dreaded whataboutism or deflections, i used that example because as foremost warmonger on the planet they do set up the standard of contemporary warfare, which is to bomb everything, drone weddings, burn cities with white phosphorus, poison the earth and people with defoliants and depleted uranium, drop millions of bombs that kill people even decades later… yet no one else except their puppets seem to even want to get close to that standard. And look, they are sending the same shit to Ukraine.
Bucha is a red herring. The event was thoroughly investigated the very day after it was suddenly mediatized, and two pieces of evidence stick out:
- The mayor of Bucha, when UA retook control of the city, made no reference to any mass murders or anything. He certainly would have mentioned it if he knew about it.
- Videos were filmed shortly (a day or two) also before UA retook the city, and there were no bodies in the streets.
These civilians were killed by Ukraine. They didn’t publicize it right after they retook the city, it took them a few days to talk about it – plenty of time to commit a massacre. There’s more inconsistencies but these are the two big ones to me. Like some people raised the problem that the bodies looked very fresh (and that nobody talked about the massacre online before UA retook the city), when the official narrative was that the massacre was committed a month before.
edit: as for mass graves, one of them I believe to have been made by Ukraine. I couldn’t tell you which one exactly though at this time, but Esha K. talked about it on twitter. Russia had made proper graves and even brought UA POWs to witness the processions. They filmed everything and that’s why I mentioned Esha, she has the video on her twitter somewhere. They had also offered to send the bodies to Ukraine for proper burial, which Ukraine refused. So they buried these soldiers themselves. Ukraine then opened the graves and threw the bodies in a mass grave to once again pin something on Russia.
Remember that Ukraine has committed verifiable war crimes (they boast about them) in just the first months of the war, I posted about this before trying to keep track of them.
There was another red herring, a woman supposedly wearing nail polish, which NAFO trolls jumped on to claim she was a civilian, but there are women in the UA army and they’re allowed to wear nail polish like you don’t stop wearing it just because you’re a soldier. So it doesn’t mean anything.
What cause? This entire conflict has been instigated by the West.
I sympathize with the Ukrainian people, but not the Ukranian government marching them to die in an unwinnable war.
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That plus the coup, that led to the problems with the Russian language (?) and subsequent shelling and war in the east.
