I hate the term authoritarianism. Pretty much everything on that stupid political spectrum graph is nonsense.
Some things should be allowed and some shouldn’t and some can’t if you want to maintain a leftist society when you’re fighting against a worldwide capitalist hegemony. And those things differ depending on the situation.
I also hate how people draw the line at where authoritarianism lies. It’s almost always in bad faith.
Authoritarianism is when the people have no practical method of holding the leaders accountable (I mean short of a violent revolution), when leaders aren’t held accountable, they can stray from egalitarian ideals. The Communist Party of China promised to establish a class-less society, yet because there were no accountability, the leaders strayed from their original ideals and just relabel it as “Socialism with Chinese Characteristics” and now it became yet another Capitalist country. Just search “Richest People in China” and look at their net worth. Is that Communism to you?
I wouldn’t call it a fascist state. Far from a fascist state. Just your average poorly mismanaged dictatorship. As long as you don’t protest, your life would probably be fine. You don’t have unlimited access to the internet, you cannot easily find certain information the government doesn’t want you to know (Eg: Tiananmen). But believe it or not, LGBT+ people aren’t actively hunted down like the media always depict it to be. It isn’t like countries with Islamic law. The worst thing LGBT people have to live with is that they don’t have any legal protections against discrimination. You aren’t allowed to protest for better protection for LGBT+ people, you just have to live with it. Everything the news talked about essentially boils down to censorship. You aren’t allowed to make any LGBT+ chat groups. But thats far different than literal genocide (although, I wont deny the possible genocides of other groups of people, I just don’t have enough reliable information to ascertain the validity of those claims, although I wouldn’t be surprised if those claims were true). China obviously isn’t a paradise, but it’s nowhere near as bad as Nazi Germany. You’re probably thinking of Mao-Era China, not modern China.
Basically: Don’t criticize the government and they leave you alone (for the most part)
Source: My experience from living in China before I immigrated to the US, and the life stories my parents and grandparents told me, and relatives currently living in China.
(Oh you know the Censorship thing? Lol my relatives in China basically has free access to outside information via calling overseas relatives like my family in the US. If they want to censor that, they’d have to cut off all phone calls.)
Listen buddy, I’ve read enough books about China and it’s politics and culture that the “google this one thing” spiel isn’t gonna make much headway with me. I have criticisms and I support other things. China is a big country and different political moves have affected areas positively and negatively, and there are pros and cons to them allowing capitalist interests to become involved in their politics.
When you say “google how many billionaires” there are to me though it makes me think you don’t really understand what you’re talking about. That’s fine though, nobody is born with knowledge, and how the fuck are we supposed to know when we live on the other side of the world? Pick up some books about the subject, you’re obviously passionate about it so I think you’ll enjoy it.
I’ll bite. What are the things you like about the CCP? There are plenty of good things about China but I’m not aware of any that were created or expanded upon by the “Communist” regime. The bad things are so bad that I can just list ethnic groups and we all know what I’m taking about.
Well there’s a lot, but if you wanna read a good book about the cultural Revolution and how in depth and different different decisions affect different areas of China, I’d suggest reading The Unknown Cultural Revolution by Dongping Han.
If you want a short one shot just from me, I’m a pretty big fan of the kill pigs list. I understand that the level of corruption let’s certain elites in China get away with shit like in the US, but a lot of them do hard time or get the death penalty for doing shit that is normal and consequence free for ALL the elites in the US. Like I said, it’s not awesome, but I like some aspects of the CCP, and I like it better than the US oligarchy.
I hate the term authoritarianism. Pretty much everything on that stupid political spectrum graph is nonsense.
Some things should be allowed and some shouldn’t and some can’t if you want to maintain a leftist society when you’re fighting against a worldwide capitalist hegemony. And those things differ depending on the situation.
I also hate how people draw the line at where authoritarianism lies. It’s almost always in bad faith.
Authoritarianism is when the people have no practical method of holding the leaders accountable (I mean short of a violent revolution), when leaders aren’t held accountable, they can stray from egalitarian ideals. The Communist Party of China promised to establish a class-less society, yet because there were no accountability, the leaders strayed from their original ideals and just relabel it as “Socialism with Chinese Characteristics” and now it became yet another Capitalist country. Just search “Richest People in China” and look at their net worth. Is that Communism to you?
No, as China has essentially transformed into a fascist state in all but name.
I wouldn’t call it a fascist state. Far from a fascist state. Just your average poorly mismanaged dictatorship. As long as you don’t protest, your life would probably be fine. You don’t have unlimited access to the internet, you cannot easily find certain information the government doesn’t want you to know (Eg: Tiananmen). But believe it or not, LGBT+ people aren’t actively hunted down like the media always depict it to be. It isn’t like countries with Islamic law. The worst thing LGBT people have to live with is that they don’t have any legal protections against discrimination. You aren’t allowed to protest for better protection for LGBT+ people, you just have to live with it. Everything the news talked about essentially boils down to censorship. You aren’t allowed to make any LGBT+ chat groups. But thats far different than literal genocide (although, I wont deny the possible genocides of other groups of people, I just don’t have enough reliable information to ascertain the validity of those claims, although I wouldn’t be surprised if those claims were true). China obviously isn’t a paradise, but it’s nowhere near as bad as Nazi Germany. You’re probably thinking of Mao-Era China, not modern China.
Basically: Don’t criticize the government and they leave you alone (for the most part)
Source: My experience from living in China before I immigrated to the US, and the life stories my parents and grandparents told me, and relatives currently living in China.
(Oh you know the Censorship thing? Lol my relatives in China basically has free access to outside information via calling overseas relatives like my family in the US. If they want to censor that, they’d have to cut off all phone calls.)
Listen buddy, I’ve read enough books about China and it’s politics and culture that the “google this one thing” spiel isn’t gonna make much headway with me. I have criticisms and I support other things. China is a big country and different political moves have affected areas positively and negatively, and there are pros and cons to them allowing capitalist interests to become involved in their politics.
When you say “google how many billionaires” there are to me though it makes me think you don’t really understand what you’re talking about. That’s fine though, nobody is born with knowledge, and how the fuck are we supposed to know when we live on the other side of the world? Pick up some books about the subject, you’re obviously passionate about it so I think you’ll enjoy it.
I’ll bite. What are the things you like about the CCP? There are plenty of good things about China but I’m not aware of any that were created or expanded upon by the “Communist” regime. The bad things are so bad that I can just list ethnic groups and we all know what I’m taking about.
Well there’s a lot, but if you wanna read a good book about the cultural Revolution and how in depth and different different decisions affect different areas of China, I’d suggest reading The Unknown Cultural Revolution by Dongping Han.
If you want a short one shot just from me, I’m a pretty big fan of the kill pigs list. I understand that the level of corruption let’s certain elites in China get away with shit like in the US, but a lot of them do hard time or get the death penalty for doing shit that is normal and consequence free for ALL the elites in the US. Like I said, it’s not awesome, but I like some aspects of the CCP, and I like it better than the US oligarchy.
You say that but I wonder if you’ll say it again when the Red Guard put you in a labor camp because you listened to a song they didn’t like.
You’re an idiot.