“You know and I know it’s the toughest, most efficient, most effective border security bill this country’s ever seen,” Biden said. “So instead of playing politics with the issue, why don’t we just get together and get it done?”

Biden touted the bipartisan border bill as “a win for the American people,” calling it a “truly bipartisan initiative.” He called on the Senate to reconsider the bill, asking senators to “set politics aside” and for House Speaker Mike Johnson, R-La., to put the bill on the floor.

“We need to act,” Biden said, adding that Republicans in Congress needed to “show a little spine.”

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    Because Trump wins as long as you don’t “get it done”. Stop acting like the turnip is a rational actor motivated by what’s best for the country. He’s not.

    Also… we don’t need “tough” border control. We need more immigration judges and resources for courts so they can process people faster, get immigrants and migrants seeking asylum processed and legal faster; so they’re in and out of the system and productive members. we need a legal and effecient path to citizenship. (or at least, green cards/work visas.)

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      Biden agrees with trump, the border is the most pressing issue of our time.

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        that’s a pretty niave take. And to be honest, pretty typically american.

        Climate Change is an existential threat to our country. but because it’s more than the next election cycle out, it’s being treated like it’s just going to make for a few hot summers or something. The reality is, as the climate changes it will excacerbate literally every issue we’re now facing. (and it will change. we’re well past the point of no-change; we’re not to the point of total collapse, yet.)

        You think the migrant crisis is bad now? just wait until Mexico and Texas start looking like the Sahara. you think food is expensive now? wait until the bees die off. or the bananas start dying out because of a disease… because they’re all clones. You think COVID was bad? wait 'till some super bug thaws out of the permafrost.

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          No not at all, I think it was another fatal mistake by Biden and the democratic party. They agree with right wing extremists on the border, then they continue to arm a genocide. I think it’s fucking dispicable.

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    Biden wants every president to be able to unilaterally shut down the border on a moments notice for indefinite periods of time…

    What trump did as a temporary measure that everyone was pissed about and weren’t even sure was legal, Biden wants to codify.

    Not abortion rights or anything the Dem voters want codified.

    Biden just want to hand some Republicans have want d for decades to them with zero in return.

    Because he’s 81 years old and completely fucking out of touch with not just his voters but reality itself.

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        Maybe…

        I’ve got this outdated belief that when a president says something, it should be clear and honest.

        No matter what happens, for the next five years we’ll have to constantly wonder if what the president said was even what he meant to say. Doesn’t matter who wins, we won’t be able to trust the words coming out of the US presidents mouth. We’ll have to wait a day or so for his aides to tell us what he really meant.

        It’s kinda and of depressing

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          When Biden said that about the border he was challenging the Republicans to give Biden that win, because he knew they wouldn’t and that Trump is too dumb not to fall for the trap Biden and his team set by saying that, and Biden was right, Trump pulled the strings and the border deal failed.

          Right or wrong though, we need to solve the border problem, and that’s definitely not by letting rednecks hunt central and south Americans, like Trump and the GOP, especially the Texas GOP, are advocating for.

          Biden knows that the solution lies in legislating for more judges and other staff to help streamline and improve the citizenship process, but the GOP are against that because they buy into the “great replacement theory” and don’t want any more brown people, especially with Trump telling them that he’ll do mass deportations if he’s elected.

          But it also goes beyond that, because we have to help solve what keeps people coming here, and that’s because of the political instability and tyranny of their origin countries, I mean brown people aside, look at what’s going on in Haiti today as an example (gangs basically taking over the Haitian capital and kidnapping more political leaders).

          You say no matter who wins, but if Trump wins he’s promising to make all of this dramatically worse, his supporters are determined to end democracy, and he and his supporters are promising vengeance on their enemies, and I and many others would definitely be considered their enemies, this is full on Hitler/Stalin shit, and sitting on the fence like you are is basically siding with Trump.

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            So Biden is just lying to voters, to piss off the other side… And we should have known he didn’t mean what he said.

            Sound like something a trumpet would say after Trump said something stupid.

            I bet you’re gonna act surprised when turnout is low

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              Only an idiot would take what Biden did as lying, the sarcasm was clear in his statement, maybe you’re just foolishly looking for any excuse to not vote for him, maybe you secretly want Trump back.

              Trumpets say the shit they say to defend Trump with no knowledge of what the topic actually is, I on the other hand heard what Biden said, how he said it, and watched the political fallout from the statement, including Teump going against his usual stance and demanding the bill be killed because it would make Biden look “good”, but hey fucking thanks for trying to paint me as one of those idiots.

              Let’s turn this around on you, maybe you’re just here to sealion the issue, because your insistence that Biden is lying sounds pretty damn Trumpy too, because it just sounds like you’re hearing what you want to hear rather than understanding how the “game” of politics is often played, especially when one of those people involved is a complete buffoon (Trump) that is easily manipulated and led to desired outcomes.

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                Only an idiot would take what Biden did as lying

                So you think Biden doesn’t think the border is America’s largest issue…

                And somehow he wasn’t lying when he said it…

                Great, another trumpet in Dems clothing for me to break.

                The big tent’s purpose isn’t to let people with zero morals make the dem party as shit as republicans