No… Seriously… Is this an actual thing? The whole world knows about how the American voting system works (or doesn’t ) and you have Americans who don’t?
This actually makes way more sense than expected
The whole world knows about how the American voting system works
No we don’t. We just understand that you have some form of FPTP. Minutiae like primaries and stuff isn’t known about.
One of them seems to be the Michigan governor, even.
(See her criticism of the “Listen to Michigan” campaign.)
A lot of people are ignorant of the whole entire process. This is not an accident. If you educate your voter base, they might vote against you.
They know how it works. They just want progressives’ eternal silence.
It’s not. OP is mostly anti-Biden spam. Posting stuff like this is to obfuscate their intent. Make it seem like other people just don’t get what they’re saying.
In my experience it has mainly been people posting about why Biden deserves to lose the presidency and then flipping it to “Chill bro it’s just the primary” when challenged.
Deserves’ got nothin to do with it.
Biden is going to lose the presidency if he doesn’t address the obvious flaws in his election campaign. Protest votes in the primary are just that, protest votes. They’re trying to send a message to the president that they are democrats, they aren’t supporting another candidate, but they have serious (and in my opinion legitimate) concerns.
The number of political pundits and armchair campaign managers shouting about how those protest votes help Trump is ridiculous. That’s what this meme is referencing.
Biden needs to win in Michigan. He needs to carry Virginia and Ohio and Wisconsin. Georgia would be a boon, but I don’t want to need it. Right now, Trump is even or ahead in all of those states, and nobody can fix that except Biden.
Edit to add a link for anyone who doesn’t think it exists.
I get the frustration and I, too, agree with the criticism being thrown at Biden. I just suppose I don’t see how people object to the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils when the consequence is the greater of two evils retaking power.
I have to believe most people making those types of arguments are either single-issue voters who think Trump will be better for Palestine, or they are not members of vulnerable classes (e.g. immigrants, women, LGBTQ+, non-Christians, racial minority groups) whose rights would be imperiled by a Trump presidency, and therefore have nothing to lose.
Edit: Wow this was holding positive yesterday and now we’re at -10. Guess the downvote trolls were out in full force while the US slept.
I just suppose I don’t see how people object to the idea of voting for the lesser of two evils when the consequence is the greater of two evils retaking power.
Because he’ll lose! That’s the objection. It’s a losing strategy. Trump is the greater evil, and he’s winning because Biden is not doing enough to win votes. People had a reason to vote against Trump four years ago, but now they have reasons to vote against Biden. Anybody willing to vote for Trump is not a reasonable person, but far too many reasonable people won’t bother to show up because they don’t have a reason to vote for Biden.
I agree with everything else you said.
Polls basically don’t mean shit. The suggestion that Trump is winning is completely nonsensical.
he’s winning because Biden is not doing enough to win votes.
far too many reasonable people won’t bother to show up because they don’t have a reason to vote for Biden.
That’s the part I am hung up on, I guess. Anyone who has the power to prevent another Trump presidency but isn’t willing to show up in November to do so is not a reasonable person.
If Gaza is the only thing preventing would-be Biden voters from voting in November, these are people who must otherwise not give a shit about LGBTQ+ people, about immigrants, about bodily autonomy, or about the separation of church and state.
So if the Pro-Palestine crowd feels comfortable throwing in their cards with Trump, essentially allying with the Pro-Israel crowd who are also beginning to move away from supporting Democrats in general by some ass-backwards line of reasoning, then they’re every bit as bad as any other MAGA conservative in my book.
Die hard Isreal supporters WILL vote for trump instead of biden. They are single issue voters. Anyone not voting for biden over failure to support Palestine is a full fledged idiot to support trump instead. Just stop repeating this bullshit already.
Did you reply to the wrong person? Nothing you said was relevant to what I said.
I’d love to see some examples of this level of stupidity, have not encountered it in the wild.
Have met plenty of “MAKE THE BIDEN MAN APOLOGIZE TO PALESTINE OR HE’LL NEVER GET MY VOTE” types… sincerely hope their urges to ‘show’ them dems doesn’t end up with them put into camps and deported. or worse.
Here’s an example…
wow.
well, I stand corrected, there’s all levels of stupidity to be found. ty for the link.
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You say that like no new generation to the game ever called the candidates irrelevant white male boomers as an excuse why they don’t vote. And when I say vote, they aren’t talking primaries.
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Righteousness is not preventing it either. You could take your own advice there.
The straw-est of mans. The argument is that Trump will win the General if you don’t vote for Biden in the General. Nobody cares what you do in the primary.
The Biden surrogates online called the Michigan uncommitted voters terrorists so…
So, who are you a surrogate for? You agenda post all day.
I’m a surrogate for no one. I just like to remind Dems their idols are faux.
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What republicans could they remind on lemmy? There are none and if there were most instances would (and have, exploding heads iirc) defed from theirs. Tbf, you don’t know whether or not they have an acct on truthsocial or even explodingheads and post inflammatory memes to them there where any of them would actually see it. Any “reminding” of republicans happening here is nothing more than a circle jerk everyone already agrees with, it’s just “preaching to the saved,” to steal an expression from religion, and unless you’re passing around a collection plate in the next few minutes preaching to the saved benefits exactly nothing.
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Where exactly are people saying not to vote in the general? All I’m seeing is/were calls to vote undecided in the Michigan primary
You actually think primarying Biden will give the DNC a better chance of winning?
Thank you for this shining example of incompetency of progressives in politics. You would rather spite your base and let a fascist in because he’s not perfect for you. 👏👏👏
Yeah people really think that and you’re totally not making shit up right now
Do you seriously believe what you wrote here? You think most Americans understand how primaries work? That’s fascinating.
I can’t tell if ignorance is bliss, or if you’re just optimistic
A specific claim was made that would shock me if it’s true of 40% of Americans and yes I realize Americans are dumber than average. Posting that here as though it’s a common thing is bullshit. It’s just op trying to act like their pro trump agenda is something else.
Well, I literally had to explain how different states have different rules for their primaries. Some are open and anyone can vote and others only allow registered R or D to vote in their respective primaries (or caucus or whatever).
I’m not sure what your experience is when talking details of the US election system to people who only vote during the presidential election, but most people aren’t well informed. They are too busy working to make ends meet and the system puts extra steps so people get confused or tired and stop looking into it.
I had to explain to a co-worker that they can vote for whatever they want and it’s ok to leave some blank if they’re unsure. She thought her entire ballot didn’t count if she left some of the measures blank. So she never voted because “there’s too many things to research”.
Well that is something. It’s almost like they don’t teach us how to vote, or organize, or be civil servants for a reason.
