• J Lou@mastodon.social
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    Who is responsible for smoking remains the same. It is just the legal consequences associated with that action that change.

    The kind of responsibility being discussed when someone neglects their duties is different from what is being discussed when we are talking about de facto responsibility.

    A group of people is de facto responsible for a result if it is a purposeful result of their joint intentional actions. Production is a planned and deliberate process. Workers are de facto responsible

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      7 months ago

      Who is responsible for smoking remains the same.

      The cigarette manufacturers? The retailers? The smokers themselves? Ad agencies? Nicotine? Workplace anxiety? Who IS responsible?

      The kind of responsibility being discussed when someone neglects their duties is different from what is being discussed when we are talking about de facto responsibility.

      It is not, because its not objectively certain where the buck stops.

      A group of people is de facto responsible for a result if it is a purposeful result of their joint intentional actions.

      A group of people can engage in individually virtuous actions while generating a villainous result. The classic example is the “Tragedy of the Commons”. Six individual shepherds grazing on a hill that can only support five flocks. Each doing an honest day’s work, but collectively destroying each others’ livelihoods.

      Individuals lack perfect information and cannot be held culpable for unforeseen consequences.

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        7 months ago

        The smoker is de facto responsible. Other kinds of responsibility could extend some blame to the manufacturers etc. Those are not responsibility in the de facto sense.

        For example, someone sells a car to a person that commits a crime using it; the car seller is not involved in the planning or execution of the crime. The car purchaser is solely de facto responsible for the crime. I am using responsibility in the narrow de facto sense.

        The tragedy of the commons is not a purposeful result