Please start your comments with the following question answered at the top:

“Will you vote for Biden in the 2024 election?” [Y/N]

  • bashbeerbash@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    65
    arrow-down
    9
    ·
    9 months ago

    Trump will for sure encourage a true genocode of palestine. remember the kurds he abandoned to Syria/Putin? remember the muslim ban?

    • roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      18
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      9 months ago

      I hear you, but fucking over the Kurds after they stuck their neck out to ally with us has been an American pastime for decades.

    • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      12
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      9 months ago

      This is the insane part to me. Everyone is just jumping on the opportunity to cheapen the word genocide, so when Trump gets a roll, I guess we will have to come up with a whole new word. Super genocide? Genocide, but not like that other one? Genocide with seven pieces of flair?

    • Maggoty@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      10
      arrow-down
      4
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Dude, Bush abandoned the Kurds; Clinton ignored them; Bush Junior used and abandoned them again; Obama did it a third time; Then Trump did it.

      Hell I wouldn’t even be surprised if the US abandoned them again. They aren’t. They told us in 2003 that our leaders would abandon them but they were thankful for the temporary help.

        • من البحر إلى النهر@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          9 months ago

          This is unsubstantiated antisemitism, and genocide-apologia. Arabs are justified in fighting the people who colonize them and expel them from their lands.

          “There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?” —David Ben-Gurion

          “Agreement with Arabs Impossible at present… Zionism Must Go Forward” - Jabotinsky, 1923

          “Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves … politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves… The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country. … Behind the terrorism [by the Arabs] is a movement, which though primitive is not devoid of idealism and self sacrifice.” — David Ben Gurion. Quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky’s Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan’s “Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech.

          And just in case you justify the genocide on them being “foreign” Arabs, Ben Gurion had this to say as quoted by Shlomo Sand:

          “The fellahin are not descendants of the Arab conquerors, who captured Eretz Israel and Syria in the seventh century CE. The Arab victors did not destroy the agricultural population they found in the country. They expelled only the alien Byzantine rulers, and did not touch the local population. Nor did the Arabs go in for settlement. Even in their former habitations the Arabs did not engage in farming…their whole interest in the new countries was political, religious and material: to rule, to propagate Islam, and to collect taxes…the Jewish farmer, like any other farmer, was not easily torn from his soil…Despite the repression and suffering the rural population remained unchanged.”

          • bashbeerbash@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            5
            ·
            9 months ago

            arabs own ALL the equatorial lands from India to Morocco. Anyone else is a target of jihad. Colonialism is the laziest excuse. arabs simply love retrograde theocracy

    • heartpatcher@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      35
      ·
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      Wtf you saying? A lot more happened in syria under trump than before him. Barack was wasting time allowing isis to grow. And once isis was defeated america pulled out. Probably one of the few good news that came out of syria. What did biden do? he put sanctions that were supposed to hurt assad, but instead hurt the people who can barely afford to eat.