• Farman [any]@hexbear.net
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    Its not ilegal in russia. Legality is not a real property of things its the opinion of the guy with the biggest army in the area. Thinking otherwise is brainworms

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      No, annexation is illegal under the UN charter, of which Russia is a signatory, and wars of aggression are criminal in and of themselves. I’ll condemn the illegal annexations performed by Israel and other states, and Russia’s annexations fall under the same boat.

      To be even more clear, I do think that Russia would have won fair referendums in Donetsk, Luhansk and certainly Crimea. I doubt that would have been the case for the other two oblasts. Still, all of those annexations were illegal. Just because the neo-cons have flouted the UN charter in favor of the ad hoc “rules-based order” doesn’t mean others should.

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          It’s always funny seeing people post that image without the context that Palestine declared war on Israel alongside all its neighbours and attempted to push the Israeli population into the sea.

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            And Ukraine kept shelling civilians in Donetsk despite signing Minsk 2.

            And that’s not even taking into account that Israel has continued to annex new land despite it not being a war.

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                Ending the existence of an illegitimate country built on stolen land has nothing to do with genocide. You’re doing the fascist ethnostate thing where you act like a state and its people are the same thing. States come and go, people remain, the ending of a state has nothing to do with harming people.

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                    Ending the Israeli state is not ending the people. Fuck off. 21% of the “Israeli people” are arab you fucking racist shit, but you’re not including them when you say “Israeli” are you? No.

                    I absolutely will not apologise for calling you racist. Whether you know this fact and are saying this shit knowingly or whether you’re just utterly oblivious to what the conditions are in Israel doesn’t matter. Oblivious racism is still racism.

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                  And I suppose they managed this even before Israel came into existence? They have always been like this. The original leaders of the Palestinian government in the Arab-Israeli war were largely fascist anti-communist agitators.

                  It might very generously be Israel’s fault that they’re still like this, but that does not change the reality of the situation.

                  • It might very generously be Israel’s fault that they’re still like this

                    That is what I’m saying and that is what matters.

                    but that does not change the reality of the situation.

                    The reality is that Israel is a settler colonial ethnostate genociding Palestinians and it shouldn’t exist.

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            “The indigenous americans shouldn’t have fought back against the settlers if they didn’t want to get exterminated.”

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        If russian law considers they are part of russia and the russian army is siting there russian law applies there. Thats how it works. If another army is sitting there then legality is whatever those other guys say.

        Pretending otherwise is denying realty.