• Mario_Dies.wav@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    5 months ago

    With all the absurd turns YouTube and Google have taken, I’ve been looking at this for five minutes trying to figure out if this is a shitpost

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    The recommendation algo is so bad they are testing it against a random bullshit generator…

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      5 months ago

      I’ve recently started getting the most random, low-view localised content from small channels even though I never watch anything in my native language or any content like what they are producing.

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    That is stupid. I wish it would just let me block channels for real in search. Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?

    If I want something news related, that doesn’t mean I want to see Fox News or other random right wing nutjobs who scream into the camera about “wokeism” every day for 4 hours.

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      Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?

      This was probably a joke but I can actually answer that for you.

      First of all, afaik there is no scientific consensus that people see the colours the same way. In fact, we most likely don’t. The visual colour interpretation is mostly likely merely added on by our brains basing on the knowledge of wavelengths. In other words, there is no such thing as “absolute blue”. There is “a blue” which is the colour each one of us’ brains was taught to call blue by simply showing the sky. If I were to look through your brain (but not through your eyes, eyes understand wavelengths), we would probably disagree on each and every colour.

      Second of all, there are different kinds of colour blindness. It is in fact an umbrella term for different disabilities. My understanding is that they usually involve a spectrum between two hues. So most colourblind will simply be unable to tell a difference between objects of two colours: for example red and green. They see them as slightly different versions of the same colour. However it would be wrong to say that the person in question sees red as green or vice versa, because, again, there are no “absolute colours”. Their eyes cannot distinguish between these two ranges of wavelengths and the brain interprets them as the same colour.

      And finally, colourblind people, when diagnosed, are fully aware of being colourblind, and furthermore, they DO NOT see in black and white. Even if a person cannot distinguish red and orange, then they still are aware there is a difference that most people around can tell and that there are concepts and feelings associated with them.

      What I am trying to say is that a colour-blind person would probably still be able to, for example, associate “red” videos with action and blood, and “green” ones with nature and calmness, even though this distinction is not palpable to them.

      Either way, this filtering with thumbnail colour is fucking stupid.

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        5 months ago

        Very interesting - my job involves a lot of Excel and charts, so I recently took a training on how to make those more accessible for colorblind folks. So that’s good to know!

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      Also, I wonder how that works if you’re colorblind?

      It’s orange, blue, and yellow fyi.

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    I just used it and I thought it was kind of cute. It’s obviously “useless”, but as a small (I assume temporary) change I thought it was interesting to see how different “genres” of videos tend to color code themselves in the thumbnail.

    I’m all for small, fun little things in websites. Like anytime google has an interactive daily theme

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    Probably another method of gathering user data for their AI training models.

    I no longer think that big media corporations are doing stupid things for no reason because they’re dumb

    I think they do stupid things because they want another way to train their dumb AI and we’re all too dumb, mindless and powerless to say or do anything about it all.

    It’s crazy when you think about it … humanity is degrading itself from all corners just to raise an idiot AI child that will be just as messed up as we are.

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    I like algorithms giving me suggestions in all sorts of ways, but not shady ones. None of the people around me seem to mind, but I worry about a company like Google strongly influencing what information we consume. Even if they didn’t use this influence, it’s dangerous to have them in the position where they could.

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      Alphabet also shapes what content creators are most likely to create by demonetizing controversial or dissenting videos.

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        “Dissenting” here meaning using a swear word within 1 minute of an ad break, videos under a set length, and new content not dropping every week, in addition to what you normally think the word dissenting means

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          A lot of the most popular YouTube creators only post every few months and their content always gets plenty of impressions

          They have a rule about not swearing at the start of a video because of the auto play feature and various accessibility tools, having it is probably better than the result of not having it.

          I regularly get offered videos of all lengths including variations of mr skellybones that are between 8 and 15 seconds, though since shorts were added those are normally uploaded there now. Yes shorter videos earn less money and yes of course they do, why wouldn’t they? If lord of the rings was two minutes long then I I imagine the box set would be cheaper.

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            Creators have repeatedly spoken about how their videos and channels get suppressed priority if their videos arent released on a regular rapid timeline. Massive creators with huge followings can push through that by way of having insanely large fanbases who have notifications turned on. That does not change the facts of youtubes prioritization system.

            Thats a nonsense excuse, because the autoplay doesnt pause at 2 minutes, and swearing within the time limit doesnt take you out of potential autoplay queue. Its because advertisers dont want swears in proximity to their ads, which is why the video gets demonetized. Youtube themselves said this when they established the policy.

            Ok. And? That means literally nothing, youtube pays creators signifigantly less for not meeting the 10 min mark even when the number of ads run is not different. No one gives a shit what you were reccomended. Youtube still runs the same number of ads on 4-9 minute videos while paying the channel less for not crossing the threshold.

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          Yeah that too. But I mostly meant a mostly opaque list of keywords that get you demonetized, and it’s possible that there is an AI that assesses how likely a video is to put a viewer in a “click ad mood” or how likely it is to keep viewers watching. Unfortunately I don’t know exactly how it works, but if they do this, I assume they also do a whole lot more subtle things.

          Controversial videos might actually do fine if they keep viewer watching and clicking on ads. But many things critical of the current consumerist and propaganda model at least gets a chilling effect. Creators know this is more work so many would avoid it. And some might not be able to make a living even though their content would be valuable for society and drop out.

          So alphabet (massively) shapes the content our society sees the tube.

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    I wonder if they are doing something worse and just overshadowing it with this weird change. Like we are using your data for training AI with no opt out BUT look at this random color picker! Don’t mind the first part, LOOK! COLORS!

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    5 months ago

    Is this yet another “make something new bs feature to get a promotion” at google?

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    Seems like an interesting spin on what is basically ’random’. Probably a decent way to get content in front of users that might be outside their normal recommendations.

    Is it some essential new feature, no, it’s just a bit of fun to find some new content.

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      5 months ago

      It seems like a feature that should be implemented April 1,and April 1 alone, and is tone-deaf to the actual problems on the platform.

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      I was feeling optimistic about it because I’m always wanting some way to get more diversity into my recommendations. I was disappointed when it mostly presented the same videos I’d been seeing in my recommendations anyway, just only those with a particular color in the thumbnail.

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    5 months ago

    This is a data collection strategy, not a feature

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    So, instead of getting the ability to search for videos properly, with negative search terms, user defined video length spans, exact dates, sort by reverse date order etc… we get ambient mode and color search? Can someone please, for the sake of humanity and my sanity, erase this company and its parent from the planet.

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      Seriously, there was a time when Google was lauded for all kinds of awesome innovation, and joked about that you needed a PhD to even be a janitor there.

      Look at them now. They can’t even do basic search functionality anymore, and are so misguided that they put out color filters for video.

      I 100% agree they need to just stop existing at this point.

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      The fact that Google started as a search company and yet search in their own apps sucks is boggling.

      In YouTube Music, when you’re building a tuner to create a station, you can’t search at all. Instead, you get an endless scroll off bands and have to find the one you want that way. The order is random.

      Like … Pandora let you do the same thing with search back in the 00’s

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      Yes it’s super weird that porn sites had that functionality for over a decade and one of the world’s largest tech companies still can’t implement those.