Have you come across the term “sealioning”? First time I saw it in the sidebar of a liberal lemmy instance and now I noticed it was mentioned off hand in a blog post I was reading where another blog post about it was casually linked: http://simplikation.com/why-sealioning-is-bad/

For the longest time I had never heard of this term. It seems to be related to someone persistently asking for evidence. Most of the discussion and truth seeking I have done online has been in Marxist circles and while it is not always high quality I have never once preceived someone or been perceived as a troll for asking for evidence which is why this whole thing is confusing to me.

There is some thing that I would like to acknowledge first. It is completely possible to use a Socratic line of questioning to argue in bad faith and waste someone’s time. If you dig deep enough into someone’s worldview it is likely you will hit a wall of presupposition or common sense for which the person does not have any supporting evidence at hand.

But I have never seen this tactic being deployed systematically. I have never been sealioned. Sometimes I have made claims which I haven’t been able to support with evidence but when that has been pointed out, it has been embarassing but I haven’t felt like some cheap tactic was used to discredit. And this has happened very rarely. If you read the linked comic strip in the linked blog post, it reads very weird. It feels like circular logic but I think its not quite that.

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    8 months ago

    I always thought ‘sealioning’ was the same as ‘JAQing(acronym: just asking questions) off’-- basically, where somebody spams a dozen obviously-bad-faith, obviously-unresearched questions at another to waste their time, typically capped off with “hey I’m just asking questions here” like they’re not deliberately trying to subliminal a bad(usually state dept-supported) line. This “sealioning is just asking for evidence” horseshit sounds like a liberal got sick of people asking them to qualify their beliefs bullshit, and they’re now trying to make it the last line of defense before their vibes-based worldview.