• Machindo@lemmy.ml
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    1 year ago

    Something doesn’t seem right about that.

    You’re supposed to work 40+ years to pay off a 20 year debt to society? That doesn’t seem fair.

    Also you didn’t chose to be born, I don’t think you owe anyone anything for having to grow to reach an age where you have agency over yourself.

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      1 year ago

      a 20 year debt to society

      It could actually be way more than that when you consider retirement (in much of the western world at least). You also can’t really “have agency over yourself” in the sense you mean without making use of what society puts at everyone else’s disposal (roads/internet/currency/etc), and freeloading comes with all sorts of drawbacks because society is shaped in a way that doesn’t reward it for obvious reasons.

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      1 year ago

      technically NO ONE asked to be born. Not even your parents or your grandparents.

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      1 year ago

      It’s not a debt to society. You have to “chip in” to take care of yourself and what you consume & throw away.

      You’re free to go live in the backwoods, build a rudimentary cabin, and hunt or fish to survive. That might be harder work than what you’ve got now though.

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          1 year ago

          There’s lots of wide open spaces and cheap land in the American West. They’re just remote and devoid of many modern conveniences. Source - I live in the Rocky Mountains.

          What I hear is somebody bitching about having to work and pay taxes and having not asked to be born, who still demands access to all the modern conveniences that work and taxes pay for.

          That’s top tier tone deaf whining.