Probably don’t want to mention Zionists to a concern troll, they’re already looking for excuses to call us Nazis.
For lurkers:
We “tankies” do not support the violence that Israel commits against Palestine, as it is a settler apartheid state similar to South Africa that brutally suppresses the Palestinians. While you might’ve only seen violence from Palestinians in the news, this is only because the news ignores Israel’s violence against them in order to blame the victim.
Notice that during this paragraph their ethnicity did not play into it. If the situation was reversed and Jews were being systematically destroyed by Arabs, we would be just as opposed to it. “Zionism” in this context refers to the idea that the Jewish people “deserve” to carve out an ethnostate in the middle east, at the expense of the people living there.
If you have read this and believe that Jewish people deserve an ethnostate because of the Holocaust, you should ask why that state needs to be in the middle east, at the expense of the non-Jewish people living there, rather than say…in Germany, the nation that actually committed those horrific atrocities.
But not all Jews are Zionists, though a lot of libs (including the lurkers) might think so. That’s more the point I’m making here, to educate people about Israel, and to do that, you need to make it very clear that hating Israel’s zionist actions isn’t anti-semitism. Or else they will just tune you out and call you nazi.
Oh I know, I think we’re talking past each other a little bit.
My goal is to clarify that we are not nazis (even if they calls that regardless) and anyone actually reading what we have to say on the matter will realise that the people accusing us of things we don’t actually believe are just lying about us. It’s not for the “diehard libs” but for those more “on the fence” and willing to listen to us.
Probably don’t want to mention Zionists to a concern troll, they’re already looking for excuses to call us Nazis.
For lurkers: We “tankies” do not support the violence that Israel commits against Palestine, as it is a settler apartheid state similar to South Africa that brutally suppresses the Palestinians. While you might’ve only seen violence from Palestinians in the news, this is only because the news ignores Israel’s violence against them in order to blame the victim.
Notice that during this paragraph their ethnicity did not play into it. If the situation was reversed and Jews were being systematically destroyed by Arabs, we would be just as opposed to it. “Zionism” in this context refers to the idea that the Jewish people “deserve” to carve out an ethnostate in the middle east, at the expense of the people living there. If you have read this and believe that Jewish people deserve an ethnostate because of the Holocaust, you should ask why that state needs to be in the middle east, at the expense of the non-Jewish people living there, rather than say…in Germany, the nation that actually committed those horrific atrocities.
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Oh, we should never give into “both sides” bullshit or anything, but it is important to stress evil actions not evil as an inherent trait.
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But not all Jews are Zionists, though a lot of libs (including the lurkers) might think so. That’s more the point I’m making here, to educate people about Israel, and to do that, you need to make it very clear that hating Israel’s zionist actions isn’t anti-semitism. Or else they will just tune you out and call you nazi.
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Oh I know, I think we’re talking past each other a little bit.
My goal is to clarify that we are not nazis (even if they calls that regardless) and anyone actually reading what we have to say on the matter will realise that the people accusing us of things we don’t actually believe are just lying about us. It’s not for the “diehard libs” but for those more “on the fence” and willing to listen to us.