• BeautifulMind ♾️@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    LOL the article says Russia lost 1 submarine but are you kidding? They’ve been promoting their surface vessels to submarine status

  • auroraborealiz@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    who even cares about naval assets in a land-based war?

    sounds like a waste of missiles that could be used to e.g. fuck with Crimes logistics by taking down the bridge

  • JCreazy@midwest.social
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    9 months ago

    We’ve been hearing this for over a year now but it seems like Russia keeps going. Is Ukraine actually winning?

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      9 months ago

      Russia lost as soon as they failed to complete their stated “objectives” as fast as they arrogantly thought they would as they mixed up cosplaying as a superpower with actually being one. They’re no longer able to meaningfully “win” in Ukraine and with each passing day their position only weakens, while Ukraine gets stronger. The only question now is how badly Russia’s going to lose.

      • assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        Putin has effectively destroyed Russia’s position on the world stage, calling it a loss is really understating things. When we saw their military was a joke, they lost significant credibility. They’re nowhere near superpower status, and their global influence has happened in spite of their military – and is endangered now that it’s truly seen.

    • circuscritic@lemmy.ca
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      9 months ago

      “Ukraine sunk their battleship, so why hasn’t the war ended?”

      If you’re going to insist on learning the realities of war from a boardgame, at least use Risk.

    • crackajack@reddthat.com
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      9 months ago

      Russia and Ukraine are on a stalemate. We don’t know how long this will last. But stalemate does not necessarily mean winning or losing.

      It’s too early to tell if Ukraine will actually win or lose. This war has unexpected surprises from both sides. Although I will say that the stalemate is in Putin’s favour. The longer the war drags on, the more the Western support could diminish and he could bide time until Trump returns and American support might withdraw. But even if Russia wins or get concessions, the resulting demographic crisis, financial cost and loss of international image is pyrrhic victory.

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        9 months ago

        From an USA point of view, less Russian navy, better is.

        That’s the only true statement in your comment, the rest is inaccurate and incoherent.