• Quokka@quokk.au
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    9 months ago

    Do they expect them to grow wings?

    Can’t go north, can’t go south, can’t go central, can’t go down, where are they meant to go?

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      9 months ago

      I remember when at the beginning people warn of genocide and some kept saying idf ask people to evacuate south but they didn’t leave.

      We know through history they will keep moving the goal post as they go through the genocide plan.

      Remember l folks, there is no aid, no clean water, no hospitals, no journalist, and no medical aid. If not bomb, disease, hunger and living condition will kill people.

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        We know through history they will keep moving the goal post as they go through the genocide plan.

        “Through history?” seems like you’re implying Israel has committed genocide in the past. Perhaps you’re thinking of Palestinian forces?

        Following the Arab Legion’s expulsion of the Jewish residents of the Old City in the 1948 War, Jordan allowed Arab Muslim refugees to settle in the vacated Jewish Quarter. Later, after some of these refugees were moved to Shuafat, migrants from Hebron took their place. Abdullah el Tell, a commander of the Arab Legion, remarked:
        “For the first time in 1,000 years not a single Jew remains in the Jewish Quarter. Not a single building remains intact. This makes the Jews’ return here impossible”
        In his memoir’s Col. El Tell outlined his decision to attack Jewish Quarter:
        “The operations of calculated destruction were set in motion. I Knew that the Jewish Quarter was densely populated with Jewish populations who caused their fighters a good deal of interference and difficulty. I embarked, therefore on shelling of the quarter with mortars creating harassment and destruction. Only for days after our entry into Jerusalem, the Jewish Quarter become their graveyard. Death and destruction reigned over it. As the down of May 28th was about to break, the Jewish Quarter emerged in convulsive cloud-a cloud of death and agony”
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamization_of_Jerusalem#Islamization_of_Jerusalem_under_Jordanian_rule

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      9 months ago

      The point of these warnings, is to prove that a warning was given. It doesn’t matter if the warning is efficacious, timely, or even if the advice is actionable.

      The utility here, is to provide deniability of responsibility. The intent may be to save lives, but if it’s not actionable that doesn’t seem likely

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      9 months ago

      Perhaps they could go get those hostages?

      Prolonging this war is just causing harm to Palestinians. Hamas needs to surrender now.

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        9 months ago

        Yeah, why all those newborns did not walk to take and free the hostages before getting bombed I ask? Too lazy? It’s their fault certainly… /s

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          9 months ago

          Esp since (prior to the war) 50% of the Palestinian population was children.

          Never believe the IDF when they say they didn’t target kids.

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          You’d be better off asking why Hamas started a war they knew they’d lose, why the prolong it in the face of their people suffering.

          Even better maybe ask why you support them? How have they made life better for their people? This situation was completely predictable and completely avoidable.

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            You’re right, it was completely avoidable. Bibi could have followed through on all that intelligence telling him of a pending Hamas attack. Hell, he could have never funded Hamas in the first place, which is why they even have power.

            Completely avoidable.

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              Pretty sure Hamas was democratically elected but if you need to shift blame back to Israel with some impressive mental gymnastics go right ahead.

              If you could put down your hate for two seconds it’s time to realise Hamas aren’t winning this and dragging this war out is just hurting Palestinians.

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                Calling Hamas “democratically elected” is a huge stretch. Hamas recieved 44.45% of votes in the last election, which was in 2006. They are absolutely not in any way accountable to the people they rule. The average Palestinian has about as much chance of freeing those hostages as I have of breaking people out of Guantanamo.

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            Or I could ask why they were being financed by Israel. Could I ask that too, couldn’t I?

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              Thanks for being brave enough to focus on important questions like who funds Hamas.

              Too many people are getting distracted by silly things like humanitarian crises but you’re out here fighting the real fight!

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                Oh yeah, Israeli governments sending tons of cash to Hamas is totally unrelated. That’s why you’d prefer to not talking about it. Not because it breaks the narrative of the poor innocent israel. Right?

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        9 months ago

        Why would Hamas surrender? This is great for them. They need war to justify their existence, and they don’t care about the civilians of Gaza much more than the IDF does.

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          Perhaps Palestineans shouldn’t support a group that’s willing to kill so many of them, (polls indicate Hamas has widespread public support both in Gaza and the West Bank,) evidently this is what said civilians want.

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            9 months ago

            Why do you self upvote?

            Are you that desperate for internet points?

            Do you just want someone to see your little upvote like priming the tip jar?

            What makes you so desperate?

            I know another person that acts the same way, are you @downpunxxx alt?

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        Dude, firstly that’s called collective punishment, which is a war crime if that even matters anymore. Secondly, this was never about hostages, it’s about cleansing Palestine. The hostages were just an excuse.