• Donjuanme@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Da bibble is full of the truths I need. There’s no smaller seed than a mustard seed, and bats are another variety of bird. Is it the truth, or is it what you’ve been told you must believe lest ye risk ostracizing yourself from your peers?

    I feel projection of right wing levels.

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      There’s no smaller seed than a mustard seed

      There might be more to that one than you think.

      Here was the only group in antiquity with a different explanation for the sower parable (that it was about physical creation of the cosmos) talking about the mustard seed:

      That which is, he says, nothing, and which consists of nothing, inasmuch as it is indivisible — (I mean) a point — will become through its own reflective power a certain incomprehensible magnitude. This, he says, is the kingdom of heaven, the grain of mustard seed

      • Pseudo-Hippolytus Refutations 5.4

      This group kept describing seeds as being indivisible points that make up all things and were the originating cause of the universe.

      Language pretty much straight out of Lucretius’s De Rerum Natura where describing the atomism of Epicureanism for a Roman audience couldn’t use the Greek atomos (‘indivisible’) and used the word for ‘seed’ instead.

      In a book widely popular in the Roman empire 50 years before Jesus was born.

      In fact, Lucretius’s book is not only the only surviving book from antiquity to explicitly describe survival of the fittest being the mechanism by which mutants in nature survived or died off based on adaptation, but specifically used the language of “seed falling by the wayside of a path” to describe failed biological reproduction.

      Again, in a book 80 years before a guy allegedly talking about how only what survived of randomly scattered seeds multipled and the seed that fell by the wayside of a path did not. In a public saying that was the only one in the earliest gospel to canonically have a “secret explanation” later on. Why were they so threatened by this saying?

      There may have been more to the context around what these sayings about seeds from a guy killed by request of religious orthodoxy leadership were about in a culture where also from the 1st century a Rabbi was recorded as saying “why do we study the Torah? To know how to answer the Epicurean.”

      Don’t just take at face value what cannonical Christianity says with its damage control versions of secret explanations and boring ass nonsense about ‘faith growing.’

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      Don’t forget the fact that the Bible requires that any woman who isn’t a virgin when married be executed. So, pretty much every republican woman.

      If they actually followed the Bible, there wouldn’t be any Republicans left.

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      There was literally a popup that I saw posted on here a little while ago from r/conservative that tells you essentially “this is a conservative safe space, difference of opinion is not welcome, we do not wish to have outsiders try to change our beliefs. This is for conservatives to discuss conservativism.”

      They’re a fucking joke.

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        I think that’s fair though. If you create a community for conservatives to speak to conservatives then that is who you want there. If you’re in a community about skateboarding, you don’t want to be inundated with people constantly saying that skateboarding is dumb.

        (To give some context, I do happen to think conservatism is dumb, but I’m also able to see their point of view and why they would want private communities online. I have no opinions on skateboarding)

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          If your community consistently berates safe spaces, then making a safe space for your community is hypocritical.

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          "If you need a safe space, you’re a special libtard snowflake who hates reality, logic, and free speech…

          … Now stay out of our safe space"

          Safe spaces aren’t bad, but any conservative who hangs out in one is loudly and openly admitting to the world that they believe anything they say and spout their garbage only to control and suppress those they don’t like.

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        And just like hexbears all their focus and attention go to liberals lmao. Same energy in both circles.

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              No. Being sycophants for authoritarian and totalitarian regimes. Supporting Russia and China when they are committing genocide and are oligarchies and state capitlist. Spouting reactionary nonesense. Using the facade of socialism and progressivism to hide fascistic ideology.

              You know, same BS American Repubs do and conservatives and fascists of yore.

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                Stop watering down the meaning of genocide! Twice as many civilians have died in Gaza as in Ukraine, and there’s no comparison at all between Gaza and Xinjiang province. More children have died in Gaza than the total number of civilians in Ukraine. Compare the numbers of journalists killed, aid workers killed, hospital staff killed, UN workers killed, there’s no contest. Gaza is what genocide actually looks like, and it comes across as shallow and hypocritical to call hexbears fascist when you’re the one that’s going to vote for genocide.

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                  I’m sorry what? This genocide has killed more people than that genocide therefore…what’s your argument exactly?

                  A genocide is a genocide, and I’m sure I’m with a lot of people when I say, let’s push to stop genocide altogether. Whether that’s in our own countries, in neighboring countries, in countries from across the world and even in countries we may not have heard of, any genocide is bad.

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    I think the content speaks for itself. It’s shit.

    But let’s talk about the typography: as someone who uses LaTeX, and irrationally hates bad typography, this one seems targeted. Look at the absolute state of the fourth panel! Ewwww. The river— I just can’t!

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      The content is great!

      • the original comic is exactly why deprogramming cult members is hard: they recoil at the mere hint of a thought that the base of their community and identity might be wrong
      • It’s deeply ironic that deeply religious cult members like modern day US “conservatives” unironically post this comic
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    LOL they keep trying to call their apologia ‘research’ in order to give it unwarranted respectability

    Interestingly, it happens that when you don’t know how to actually do research (like, can you interrogate your sources, put them in appropriate context, evaluate what they have to say critically?) you’re more likely to land on disinformation sources or feed yourself confirmation bias than you would have been if you’d read what experts have to say on a given subject.

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        I said it as a joke because the way facts are presented and framed matter. “Facts don’t care about your feelings” is something Ben Shapiro likes to say when he misinterpret facts.

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    this could work for liberals or conservatives

    note i said liberals not leftists