For a second I thought this was Reddit with all the armchairing. Holy crap

This does nothing the data is record kept and mass deleting/shredding your comments is already deductible and there have already been cases where shredded comments have been reversed after people have deleted their account.

The Reddit space is just a bunch of pictures of people’s home Labs it’s not really a self-hosted community at all.

It’s not interesting to explore and read like this one is.

It’s suffered from a common phenomena of any community that grows in popularity where it caters to the lowest common denominator and loses its niche.

Samesies…

It’s very difficult though, sourcing material is difficult enough, archiving and making it actually useful and valuable even moreso. It takes a lot of intelligent processing.

LLMs can reduce that effort a lot, on the searching side, but that’s very expensive either in hardware or in API costs. And either way, would likely involve the efforts of a team to achieve.

Because advertising is what wins?

There’s no such thing as bad publicity anymore. If you can gain a lot of publicity with well-timed and poignant collages and snippets that target audience on say tic Tok. That’s an extremely powerful tool.

Currently things like this take not insignificant time and effort. Reducing the time of production is valuable.

How, exactly?

They should sure, who’s coughing up the tens of millions of dollars that might cost?

If they don’t have the resources to do it, they can’t.

Distributed filesystems that self hosters can support may be the future for resilient data, but we’re not really there yet in a scalable way.

I’m pretty sure that they do but this is a problem of and resources, which they are strapped for

Yep and the slow gutting of the education system isn’t making it any better.

You have an entire generation coming of voting age who are rabid Trump supporters. They don’t care about policies or democracy or public institutions. They don’t care about healthcare, social securities, or the stability of the economy.

They don’t care about any of the things that have been built up through generations. They lack critical thinking ability.

The recipe works. If you make dumb kids they will vote for dumb people. It works so well that part of the future plan for a trump presidency is to get rid of the department of education. Solidifying the Republican party indefinitely.

Without critical thinking and with mass media it’s so easy to say every problem that people deal with is because the “other side” made it so. Even if the other side has been doing everything possible to achieve the opposite.

Google should be subject to antitrust legislation regardless.

Their position as a monopoly is what enables this.

This is more of a symptom the cause is the monopolization of the internet largely by Google

The grand majority of Mozilla’s spending is for engineers.

They use chromium.

Firefox does not.

The grand majority of software engineering effort goes into the browser development that they never have to work on for the most part.

Yes, and with reddit having a baseline corporate & bot astroturfing rate of ~25% that’s not exactly a good bar to measure by.

I… That’s not how this works. Or at least that’s not the context I’m referring to.

I can make an account (or 1000, Lemmy doesn’t exactly have controls to stop me) and run it as a bot, and NOT mark it as a bot. And use it to automatically manipulate the tone of conversations and threads without anyone knowing. And the premise of your argument is now void.

Labeling of bots is done via goodwill.

We’re not worried about goodwill users in this context. We’re talking about astroturfing bots posing as actual users. That said, labeled bots are still a problem if their content out grows organic user content, since that just isolates us, and erodes our community in favor of w/e interesting content bots scaped up today.

Which is a massive problem on almost every social media platform already. And will come to Lemmy soon enough.

This seems like classic corporate backtracking when their customers spot a terrible, deliberate decision.

I didn’t think that’s the case here

However, would you rather that the feedback of users NOT change behavior? I’m not entirely sure what your end game is here, you WANT corporations to ignore and not take action on feedback?

How can they block this for everyone?

No, now they taste that sad slightly burnt air with a tablespoon of salt.

Unfortunately the bot problem is coming to Lemmy.

Bots posting content is already a thing here, and then taking up front page space is already a thing.

Lemmy is speed running “How to lose your sense of community”.

Seriously. We don’t need bot bullshit on Lemmy.

This is the start of the slide for Reddit is just going to be worse here because there are fewer controls to actually detect and do something about bots.

Naw, they’ll make it yaml

And the only way to edit it will be in an on-phone editor that won’t use a mono spaced font.