• Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
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    10 months ago

    Sometimes I feel like Microsoft is just a little too early to the party. Apple is about to release their VR/AR product and even they do it’s probably going to be crazy and become popular. Then Microsoft will have missed the wave.

    The same can be applied to their Windows phones. Had they suck around a bit they would have had a better market share I think.

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        9 months ago

        Dog poo brown and mushy peas green

        Charcoal black and spider blood blue

        Ice chunk white and transparent glass

        Incase you’re wondering what all this is, it’s how I describe the color options of the Zune 30. You can tell that they’re all the same length in terms of syllables.

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      10 months ago

      To further your point, I would add Mixer. Msoft gave up on it just months before Twitch made a series of controversial moves that would have been the perfect moment to strike with an alternative.

      I think that part of the difference there is also that Apple is really good at marketing their products into “the cool thing to have” and a status symbol, a lot of their products don’t necessarily gain steam based purely on their functionality but more based on their ability to make it the hottest latest thing to have.

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        Dude the Mixer situation was so weird to me, they were clearly serious about it, bought out a bunch of big streamers for ridiculous amounts of money and then just… gave up. They needed more ways to engage the community of streamers, like Twitch Rivals does, because people are not going to use your platform if they have no-one they want to watch, but Mixer never attempted to try and get people to watch new streamers.

        I did try Mixer when I still watched livestreams often, the video quality was so much better, the player was snappy and was such a breath of fresh air from Twitch. But my god did they butcher the chat/viewer experience. I don’t want visual clutter and fireworks flying over my screen all the time, it was the most dogshit thing ever, so back to Twitch I went. I mean Twitch without FFZ is also disgusting now, give me that simple IRC chat back!

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      10 months ago

      Your comparison between phones and VR/AR is reasonable but a bit different as when windows phones were discontinued, Microsoft had pretty much lost the phone os race. Also the windows phones sucked, I’ve used them…

      IMO microsoft gave vr/ar a fair chance. They might have been early, but if we are eg. a full decade off must buy VR, then it might not be worth waiting.

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    10 months ago

    Oooof that’s unfortunate, it was the platform for reasonably priced VR systems that weren’t made by Facebook (I refuse to acknowledge their rebrand), even if it wasn’t the best software…

    This is basically another step towards a situation in which your only VR options are either high end Valve offerings or buying into the Facebook ecosystem.

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      10 months ago

      Where’s Oculus Rift when you need them? I’m still waiting for the 3 to release…

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      10 months ago

      Don’t discount psvr. It’s pricey if you don’t have a ps5 and start from scratch, but many do so it comes into a more affordable bracket then, but still pricey.

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        oh yeah, psvr1 was my entry headset and it was decent, but I don’t know, that’s another very closed environment. It’s also really unclear how truly on board Sony is with VR at the moment…

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      10 months ago

      i doubt even the best vr game facebook can come up with can beat even the average asset flip on steam. I wish valve made cheaper version of index so more people can better get into actually good vr games. Or some other company made cheaper controller that has similar functions and is compitable.

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      10 months ago

      Steam link works on many oculus devices now. You can have the best of both worlds. Cheap VR platforms and cheap, moddable games through Steam.

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    Will Microsoft force uninstall the windows mixed reality portal app needed to even start steam vr? If so how to fully prevent it from doing so without making it a fully offline device. I play sooo much hotdogs horseshoes and hand grenades (h3vr) with a boat load of mods, and not being able to run it because windows mixed reality portal is removed from the system, will make me sad.

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        9 months ago

        Doesn’t look like there will be such an update. I just took a glance at the article but there was no mention of such an update.

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      10 months ago

      I’m pretty sure you can make the g2 boot straight to steam vr at the moment so hopefully that will just become the default. Otherwise I’ll just have to stop updating my computer which is less ideal.

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        10 months ago

        Can it play HL Alyx? I’ve wanted to get a VR setup but Valve’s is out of my price range and I’m not buying a Meta product. Picking up the G2 on clearance might be feasible though if it’s decent.

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          Yup and quite well too. I really like my g2, the tracking isn’t always the best but it’s good enough most of the time and the screen is really good. You do need a fairly beefy PC though. I’ve got a 3070 and can’t run the higher end games on full settings. They still look good though.

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          It can, and it looks quite good. It doesn’t have the finger tracking that valve’s has but it still plays fine.

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    10 months ago

    One of my earliest vr experiences was with the blue Acer mixed reality headsets and it did fine at the time. Cost far less than the mainstream headsets from HTC and Oculus too.

    Haven’t even seen any new WMR headsets for years and thought it was already dead.

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    10 months ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The company says Windows Mixed Reality is “deprecated and will be removed in a future release of Windows.” Microsoft first introduced Windows Mixed Reality in 2017 as part of its bid to compete with virtual reality rivals like HTC and Oculus (now owned by Meta).

    Windows Mixed Reality served as a portal to games, apps, and other experiences within the VR space.

    In addition to the Microsoft HoloLens, other companies, including Acer, Dell, Lenovo, Asus, HP, and Samsung, made mixed reality headsets compatible with Microsoft’s platform.

    It doesn’t look like the enterprise-focused HoloLens 2 is going anywhere for now, though, as Microsoft added a free Windows 11 upgrade and several other improvements for the $3,500 headset earlier this year.

    HoloLens boss Alex Kipman left last year over allegations of sexual misconduct, and the company later cut 10,000 jobs, many of which affected the workers behind Microsoft’s mixed reality projects, including the now-discontinued AltspaceVR app.

    It also started letting Quest users access Office apps and its Xbox Cloud Gaming platform through a partnership with Meta.


    The original article contains 248 words, the summary contains 174 words. Saved 30%. I’m a bot and I’m open source!

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    10 months ago

    Not much product demand when today’s reality is crazier than any mixed virtual reality could ever be.

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    There is something that people tend to forget and very clear on what was learned from VR and mixed reality: if they means wearing a device in your head or eyes, it will fail. Technology needs to advance considerable in order to both VR and mixed be adopted into everyone’s life.

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      9 months ago

      Not really, there’s certainly a compromise where glasses level sized tech could be very appealing to a lot of people

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        9 months ago

        Absolutely, if it’s essentially just a pair of regular glasses. Anything bulkier and it becomes fatiguing.

        We’re still probably a decade off of AR glasses that size, but they’re getting there.