• 567PrimeMover@kbin.social
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    This is what I mention when I’m covertly pushing “radical” ideas such as 4 day work weeks. We have all of these technological advancements - Why can’t the workers see some of those benefits instead of them being funneled to the top in the form of extra profits?

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      The machine must be fed.

      The goal was never leisure. The goal was always profit. And so we feed the profit machine, and when we run out of resources, we’ll start throwing in sacrifices.

      Because the machine must be fed.

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        If chatGPT was marketed towards workers filing reports for idiot bosses that won’t know the difference it would have been made illegal within the month

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      7 months ago

      Stop pushing the idea of four day work weeks. Begin promoting the idea of three day weekends.

      I bet you’ll start getting different responses.

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        Honestly I just like the idea of it because if someone decides they really want to grind for a bit they can now take up a second up to full time job without worrying about most of the shit employers will give you for that.

        What I think should be the standard is a “full time” job being 18 hours in a week of work time, including commuting, with any time above every additional multiple of 18 immediately paying out as 2.5x the pay that’s been earned so far. Doesn’t just give people their free time back in spades, it also significantly discourages extorting workers for overtime instead of staffing adequately because now it’s literally more expensive to pay out any overtime at all than it would have been to just hire the additional worker at equal pay, and that effect ramps up exponentially too, by the time you’re at the soul grind of a 40 hour week you’ve already tapped your employer so hard it would have been cheaper to hire 5 additional workers than it was to make you work that 40 hour week.

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      7 months ago

      Try 30 hour week. It’s superior to 4 “days” of random length. I had a couple of Philippines based contractors on my team who had 4 day weeks, but they still needed to work 40 hours

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      7 months ago

      We almost had a 4 day work week implemented at my job, but some Big Brain said “NO! We need to be shipping 5 days a week!”

      90% of the time we don’t ship things out on Friday…

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    The Ancient Greeks weren’t actively trying to turn the strawberries in your fridge into a SaaS subscription.

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      This actually points to the root of the problem. You couldn’t do that kind of retail subscription nonsense in ancient times because the bookkeeping, identity management, and fraud prevention would have been a nightmare. Since we found out how to automate all of those problems away, here we are.

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        Sort of, my point is really that there are new kinds of work that were not really conceivable at the time, most of which has no direct influence on whether you’re fed, clothed, housed, and healthy. (Indirectly is another matter, North Korean’s wisest minds centrally decide what really matters and look where that gets them… Not a 3 day work week)

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      7 months ago

      Shit should be free, or cheaper at least, if you’re poor, trying to draw blood from a stone is how the poor stay poor and the elite fall to pieces and lose their entire hierarchy

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    Because the Greeks you hear about were the aristocracy. You don’t hear how some estimates of the population breakdown were more than 80%-90% slaves.

    Just like how you hear of the 300 Spartans, but not the several thousand Thebians, most of whom were slaves, who also defended the pass.

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    When I went freelance, it was hard not having a boss at first, now I’m totally into it. It took around a year for me to get everything to where I felt good about it. I think a lot of people don’t realize that the uncomfortable feeling of not having a boss usually doesn’t last forever. The people who liked working from home probably get it. We are taught to have bosses from a very early age.

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      Also was a freelancer. I felt like I had more bosses. Instead of one person to keep happy it was an entire client staff to keep happy. I gave it up for a lot of reasons and went back to corporate.

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    I mean, precisely because of that people indeed now do have fig orgies outside. Just don’t count workers as people.

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      Figs are way better than apples which are very popular for some reason. They’re at least as tasty as a banana. I actually think the average fig is better than the average strawberry. Too many big bland strawberries.

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        You haven’t had the right apples. Some types of apple are the perfect mix between sweet and sour and very aromatic and fresh. Most apples however tastes like water, just chewier.

        Again what you call the average strawberry is just the bland industrialized abomination that we get: tasteless no flavor whatsoever. Real strawberries can be considered the kings of the fruitkingdom. Just like the lion in the king of the jungle the humble strawberry is the king of the fruit isle.

        Figs, on the other hand… even at their best they are… “alright I guess”

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    I mean the rich people are eating figs, on their yachts, on their way to their winter home, to go skiing with their family.

    Yeah…