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      And the commanding officer only tried to stop them when they heard the last victim asking for help and realised it was in hebrew.

      Seems the IDF shoots first and asks questions later. This is what’s happened to unarmed jewish hostages, who were shirtless, holding a white shirt on a stick which is the universal sign of surrender. What about the million people living in gaza coming up against this? Holy fuck.

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    Israeli IDF members are “hostages” who’ve been “kidnapped” but Palestinian children imprisoned without charge are “detainees” or “prisoners”.

    Don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining.

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      Well that’s mainly because of “recognition”. Few countries recognize Hamas as a valid leadership organization of Gaza. That’s the difference between an army and a terrorist group. The army belongs to a recognized country.

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    “It was against the rules of engagement for the IDF," Hecht says.

    As if they haven’t been encouraging this as normal practice.

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      This is their standard SOP, I suppose. There had been another incidence recently where an unarmed Israeli man who had just killed 2 Palestinian attackers at Jerusalem. The man kneeled on the ground, raising his hand, and opened his shirt to signal that he wasn’t a threat. But this IDF soldier rewarded the supposedly Israeli hero by killing him cold-blooded. Not sure if there any video of this on news channels but the clips of this incidence has been circulating around in Telegram about 2 weeks ago, I think.

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    lol most moral army in the world is war criming their own people too. they were civilians. they had surrendered. IDF be like “Me? Lie?”

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    Its like israel was going through geneva convention just for purpose of violating every part of it

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    This never was about Hamas, and never was about the hostages.

    It’s about exterminating Palestinians and destroying their infrastructure, while ensuring that enough of the survivors are radicalised enough to keep the military funding going.

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    Forget the fact they were hostages. They had already openly surrendered and were waving a white flag. They were non-combatants in every sense of the word. They murdered them.

    Israel claims that 61% of deaths are civilian which is already beyond fucking abhorrent but with this news, is that number remotely reliable?

    Israel has been dying to take every square inch of Palestine for decades. They took their opportunity and they are openly slaughtering the population. 61% by their own admission. Over half of all deaths have been civilian but still they keep pushing on. They kill their own people and still they push on.

    I no longer see a difference between Israels government under Bibi/his party and the Nazis in WW2. Openly exterminating a group of people they do not like under the argument that they have some holy/divine/superior claim to land. That is literally the fucking Nazi playbook.

    It is genuinely bonechilling and horrifying.

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      Yeah, I believe the comparison to Nazi Germany is spot on.

      It’s why, next time I see an Israeli genocide troll talk about “Israel’s right to exist”, I’m just gonna ask if they think Nazi Germany had a right to exist, and if not, why. I’m anticipating some serious mental gymnastics, or, depending on where it happens, an instant permaban.

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    Now all we need some stories of the IDF raping women in Gaza (might have already happened) and I think they they got the entire war crime bingo card filled out.

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    This is awful, but far more nuanced than the comments.

    Friendly fire happens in war, especially with an enemy who uses civilians as shields and seeks to maximize civilian deaths for PR. They are trained to attempt to appear as friendlies and civilians. And in the thick of combat, mistakes are easy to make.

    This horrible situation is similar to when little kids were shot during the war in Iraq. Children were used as suicide bombers and more effective because they looked less like a threat. This tragically caused non-threat children to sometimes be mistakenly killed as well.

    An enemy that uses children and civilians, like Hamas, is a horrible cancer in the world and must be eliminated and removed completely.

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      It wasn’t right when our people killed children, it’s still not right when Israel does it, it will continue to be wrong when the next batch of cowards that think their adult lives are more important than children’s lives.

      If you are so scared that you have to kill babies and children, you should not be a soldier.

      If your first reaction to a white flag is to shit your pants and empty your gun, you are a coward and a waste of human life.

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        I am glad for your place of privilege where you can judge and condem without needing reason or experiencing the nuances involved here. Would you also like to talk to their manager?

        Close quarters urban combat doesn’t happen like a turn based video game where you get to slowly decide your every move with the luxury of thinking through every move and variable. In fact, it’s full of chaos, uncertainty, adrenaline, and mistakes–tragic mistakes happen. Nobody is celebrating it, but you are condemning it from the safety of your keyboard … wow.

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          Yep I condemned it when America did it. Why should I want anyone else get away with it?

          If you are so much of a coward, did you shoot someone with a white flag in their hands you are a waste of human life.

          If you think that your revenge is worth more than human lives, children’s lives of all damn things, you’re a cowardly piece of fucking shit and a waste of space on my planet, and when you die, I will be happier for the fact that you are not here using up my resources, do you know with you being a child killer and all, and you will be one of the few deaths that I ever celebrate.