Just a thought experiment, let’s say the earth is flat, looks like many professionals would know, including
-
Pilots/ATC/sea captain
-
Land surveyor and civil engineers
-
Astronomers and Geologists, at least the one dealing with experimental data
-
Militaries, at least radar operator and artillery
Just these categories are already a lot of persons, I assume I miss a lot of others. So how many person does it make in total ? 10 % of the population ?
Add the entire population of Denmark. Country is dead flat yet you can’t see one city from another one. Nor can you see the mountains of neighboring countries.
The Netherlands enters the chat.
Cue the Dutch that live 50m NAP. Sometimes it doesn’t even feel like you are a part of the same country… 🥲
More than just people. Some form of greater intelligence has to be at work since anyone can run a simple experiment to prove it’s round.
The ending of the Netflix documentary where the flat earthers prove the earth is round is hysterical.
What’s the documentary called?
Stealing this from OP, it’s called “Behind the Curve” and it is hilarious.
They do an experiment with a navigation unit from an airliner and it consistently proves them wrong too.
Is that the one where they use the lighted poles at night and a board with a hole in it to prove the earth is flat? In that one they seemed a bit baffled and said they’d need to do the experiment again. To their credit, when they ran it again with the same results, they said they’d need to reevaluate their beliefs.
during the credits the guy was making excuses for why it failed, did he come out later saying he was wrong?
In the one I saw, he was definitely contemplating his beliefs after the second failed test. But that doesn’t mean he didn’t justify and explain away the results later. It is very difficult for people to change core beliefs, even to the point of being painful for some people. In the case of this guy, idk what he eventually decided on, because the show didn’t show it.
It wasn’t the main guy but one of the guys on site doing the pole experiment. I recall him saying “that’s interesting” after confirming the test worked, proving the curvature. It sounded like he was questioning his beliefs, but during the credits he’s on a podcast or radio show making some bs up about how the test was wrong.
I must have shut it off before then. That’s too bad. I kind of wondered if he would later explain it away. What a dummy.
That is unironically part of it. When people do experiments that show the earth is round they get told to pray and do it again. This suggests that their rationale is that the devil is tricking you into seeing bad results and if you pray hard enough you will eventually see five lights.
Awesome reference.
What is it a reference of?
Star Trek, next generation
One of the best Star Trek episodes ever: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chain_of_Command_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)
Even math is involved? Dang this thing goes further than I thought.
The guards that patrol the ice wall.
Entirety of NASA. Entirety of NOAA. Meteorologists. Cartographers. Everyone who works on Google Earth. Every engineer who works on satellites, rockets, and planes. Physicists.
However, I do think 10% is probably too high an estimate. While these are a lot of people in a lot of areas, they represent pretty small demographics each.
Wouldn’t you assume that their family would know and be in on it? I was gonna suggest it has to be more than 10 percent. Since it’s not a life or death conspiracy like the Manhattan project I would assume a lot of those people ‘in on it’ would tell spouses, best friends or even older kids. If you knew a huge secret like that would you want your close loved ones to be lied to and indoctrinated into a false truth?
If you’re in on the biggest conspiracy in the history of the world, you don’t tell anyone about it. There are CIA agents who live their entire lives without their spouses knowing they work for the CIA. How much more powerful must the round earth agency be than the CIA to maintain such a conspiracy for thousands of years? I don’t want to say illuminati, but it sounds an awful lot like the illuminati.
Anyone who lives near the sea an can see ships disappear behind the horizon.
The entirety of Australia, because Flat Earthers often deny that this continent even exists and claim that it’s the “counterweight” of the plate or some sh*t like that, and everyone living there is a paid actor employed by NASA to cover up The Truth™
No idea what Flat Earthers living IN Australia think of this tho…
Maybe yore thinking of the counterweight continent from Discworld?
Where do you think Pratchett got the idea?! They got to him first and paid him off so we’d think it was ridiculous!
No joke, it wasn’t a flat earth thing, but I had a coworker years ago who was big into conspiracy theories and he claimed that movies like Men in Black were made to make everyone think that kind of thing only happened in fiction so we’d laugh at people who think it’s real.
When I tried to point out to him that there was no evidence for the things he claimed were real, he said the lack of evidence was proof, because it meant they were hiding the evidence.
So obviously they had a brain because there’s no evidence of one. Checkmate.
The thing about flat earthers is that they don’t believe one thing, pretty much every group has a different believe system. The chance that a globe eartger and a flat eather have a similar system they believe in is higher than a flat earther and another random flat earther.
Anybody who has ever flown far enough Eastwards or Westwards and saw how the time of day changed either much faster or slower than the time their clock said it was.
(Which can’t be mathematically explained for a flat Earth but is a pretty simple effect to explain with a round Earth)
Forget that. It’s even simpler. Phone someone in a different time zone around sunset. If they say the sun isn’t setting where they are, either the earth is a sphere, or they’re lying and part of the conspiracy.
If I understand correctly they have some kind of explanation where the sun works like a spotlight or something. But it also requires light to curve in weird ways to make any damn sense, soooo…
I’m just not quite sure I understand what the point of the conspiracy would be. If it turned out that the earth really was flat, how would it be worth it to lie and say it was round?
I can’t see any reason for anyone to lie about it.
Anyway, we know the earth isn’t flat because if it was Trump would have tweeted about it.
Yeah, light curving is much more logical than the earth curving.
Literally everyone with eyes and a functioning brain who has ever charted the stars, flown in a plane, or looked out to sea. I’d wagers that’s far more than 10%.
I’ve always wondered how the Soviet Union and the Cold War fit into the NASA conspiracy. Did Korolev receive paycheks from across the ocean to fake Gagarin’s spaceflight too?
You missed the Memo, both countries were controlled by Reptilians who live inside the hollow earth. Have you ever see Stalin and Reagan in the same room ? It’s because it’s the same person
If the lizard people live in a hollow Earth, aren’t they afraid to fall out of the bottom?
Quit with your thinking
GPS is in on the hoax, too. Think about how much they had to hide the fact that those satellites can’t “orbit” a flat disc…
There are no conspiracists on the tail side, only on the heads side I am told, because they fell off
Obviously only the programmer/team of programmers who wrote and maintains the simulation.
The Earth is flat but they just make it look round with a shader.
It’s still flat because the entity observing the simulation is looking at an image on a monitor.
Mathematicians. On a sphere, you can make a triangle that consists of three 90 degree angles, adding up to 270. A flat triangle will require that all angles add up to 180, i.e. 60, 60, 60.
Edit: I’m not a mathematician, and yet I know this. So this one could probably include anyone who has ever had a math teacher that covered spherical geometry.
I was going to add other groups that would have to be in on it, but it is only required that you are all not real.
I am real. My family is real. But outside maybe 30 miles from my house, no one else needs to be real.
Sure, I can and have driven farther, but the trackers alert the actors. This has the advantage of the Earth’s population can be just a few hundred thousand total.
Why? Clearly, I am the last truly important person, for reasons that are not yet clear.
So … 50,000 people are in on it at least. And they are… 40%+ of the Earth’s population.
Edit: to finish the thought. OP’s 10% puts those in on it at 800 million people. My 50 thousand is a much smaller number.
Your family isn’t real either. Neither is your house. This is all a product of your nascent consciousness.
Since flat earth nonsense is just rebranded creationism, the only being who really needs to be part of the conspiracy is satan.
Then anyone who tells you that the earth is round is either deceived by satan, or is a satan worshiper.
This makes it super easy to dismiss anything that would hint at reality, like ships sailing over the horizon.
You’re forgetting that with the microchips in vaccines, they can control our thoughts, so most of the participants don’t need to be willing or aware. Cuts it down to just a few people in control of the 5G vaccine chip program.
You’re welcome.