Israel effectively declared war on Palestine in 1967 (more accurately in 1917, but that aside). From that point onward any action with a military or political goal taken by Palestinians against their oppressors is justified.
Slaughtering civilians is never justified. What Hamas did was horrifying and a crime against humanity. But the reason why Hamas ever got so strong in the first place has a lot to do with how Isreal has systematically oppressed and killed Palestinians for decades. And the war it is waging now against the Palestinian people is also indefensible. It should be widely condemned, any support withdrawn and Israel should be sanctioned.
What Hamas did was horrifying and a crime against humanity.
The specifics of the attack, yeah. Any action that caused harm to civilians without a clear military goal absolutely must be prosecuted as a war crime/crime against humanity. But that doesn’t make the whole attack a terror attack, because it had a clear military goal and was staged against military and political targets, is what I’m trying to say.
We need to be aware of the difference between “Hamas committed crimes against humanity on October 7th” and “the October 7th attack was a crime against humanity”.
You keep meeting the atrocities committed by Hamas when they’re really not relevant in this precise instance.
Millennia-old houses of worship are treasures belonging to our species, not assets on a ledger belonging to any particular party in a conflict. So pointing out Hamas’ misdeeds is as relevant as pointing out the atrocities committed by the US against native Americans. It’s terrible, but it doesn’t provide context useful to the news that the IDF destroyed an ancient cultural treasure.
I see that you repeatedly condemn both sides, and I think that’s admirable. But it still seems misguided because it sounds like you’re trying to keep score when this isn’t a soccer match. Neither side gets a pass because the other did something bad too. This mosque wasn’t on anyone’s team.
I never said otherwise. That’s why I said military or political goal. We absolutely should be condemning the rape and any other deliberate murder of innocents.
Israel effectively declared war on Palestine in 1967 (more accurately in 1917, but that aside). From that point onward any action with a military or political goal taken by Palestinians against their oppressors is justified.
Slaughtering civilians is never justified. What Hamas did was horrifying and a crime against humanity. But the reason why Hamas ever got so strong in the first place has a lot to do with how Isreal has systematically oppressed and killed Palestinians for decades. And the war it is waging now against the Palestinian people is also indefensible. It should be widely condemned, any support withdrawn and Israel should be sanctioned.
The specifics of the attack, yeah. Any action that caused harm to civilians without a clear military goal absolutely must be prosecuted as a war crime/crime against humanity. But that doesn’t make the whole attack a terror attack, because it had a clear military goal and was staged against military and political targets, is what I’m trying to say.
We need to be aware of the difference between “Hamas committed crimes against humanity on October 7th” and “the October 7th attack was a crime against humanity”.
In my opinion raping women, mutilating them, even cutting off their breasts and playing with that (source) crosses a moral line.
I despise violence and condemn both sides for the crimes they are committing.
You keep meeting the atrocities committed by Hamas when they’re really not relevant in this precise instance.
Millennia-old houses of worship are treasures belonging to our species, not assets on a ledger belonging to any particular party in a conflict. So pointing out Hamas’ misdeeds is as relevant as pointing out the atrocities committed by the US against native Americans. It’s terrible, but it doesn’t provide context useful to the news that the IDF destroyed an ancient cultural treasure.
I see that you repeatedly condemn both sides, and I think that’s admirable. But it still seems misguided because it sounds like you’re trying to keep score when this isn’t a soccer match. Neither side gets a pass because the other did something bad too. This mosque wasn’t on anyone’s team.
I never said otherwise. That’s why I said military or political goal. We absolutely should be condemning the rape and any other deliberate murder of innocents.
Stop linking your fake news. IDF quotes without evidence aren’t a source
I have seen this covered on various news portals. I just chose one of them. Why do you think this is fake news?