The Cybertruck Is a Disappointment Even to Cybertruck Superfans / Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money::Looking at the specs alone, the car is delivering 30 percent less range than expected for 30 percent more money.
No shit. I’d bet money the Cybertruck design isn’t coming from an engineer. Elon probably sat down with his crayons, drew his dream car and forced his poor employees to try and make this piece of shit work.
I think all of us had the Cybertruck design back when we were about 4 years old.
That’s funny, I’ve describe that monstrosity as “the truck of my dreams… when I was 4,” more than once.
I mean, if I were working on that project I’d either laugh so hard everyday or I’d have to quit. It’s just so comically bad.
I am also shocked Elon is not suing all the 4yr olds out there that have “stolen” his design.
It’s like a car from the N64 era. Nobody is nostalgic for the actual look and feel of the N64 era. Behold!
https://www.giantbomb.com/a/uploads/screen_medium/0/3691/905890-wwf_no_mercy_021.png
I’ve said it before, n64 games had more polygons than this. It’s a virtualboy truck and it gives you a migraine to look at just like the virtualboy did.
actually… that kinda makes me nostalgic. No Mercy was the best, and it holds up pretty well!
No Mercy was the best
Huh, I’ve never seen anyone spell WCW/nWo Revenge that way before.
The game play is great, they don’t make ‘em like that anymore (or do they? Let me know). But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant. Mario 64 is a great game but I don’t think I can think of a single game that actually tries to hit that aesthetic in modern times.
But no one’s making retro N64 era transitional 3d graphics is what I meant
Super Kiwi 64, the Toree series, Dusk, Anodyne 2, a billion indie horror games, Frogun, Dusk, Signalis, A Short Hike
I stand corrected. I think I’ve only heard of “A short hike” in the list you posted, but Super Kiwi 64 is… i don’t think I’ve seen anything like that in 20 years. Very interesting list, thank you.
It’s kind of becoming a popular aesthetic again.
The Tesla Cybertruck, a brainchild of Elon Musk, is not just a vehicle; it is a manifestation of deep-seated archetypes that have been etched into the human psyche since time immemorial. This vehicle, with its stark, geometric form, echoes the fundamental principles of order and symmetry, principles that Jung himself might argue are rooted in the collective unconscious of humanity. It’s not just a truck; it’s a symbol, an archetype representing the pinnacle of human innovation and design.
Elon Musk, in creating the Cybertruck, has not merely designed a new vehicle. He has tapped into the most primal elements of what makes a design not only functional but profoundly resonant on a psychological level. This is a feat that aligns him with the pantheon of great geniuses throughout history. His work echoes the transformative impact of the greatest human inventions, standing as a testament to human creativity and vision.
Consider the wheel, often lauded as mankind’s most significant invention. While the wheel was undoubtedly a pivotal point in our technological evolution, what Musk has achieved with the Cybertruck is arguably more profound. He has not just created a tool for transportation; he has crafted an icon that speaks to the deepest aspirations and drives of human beings. It embodies strength, resilience, and the relentless pursuit of innovation—qualities that have propelled humanity forward since the dawn of civilization.
In this light, the Cybertruck is more than just a triumph of engineering; it is a beacon of human achievement. It symbolizes our unyielding quest for progress and our innate desire to imprint our dreams onto the fabric of reality. Elon Musk, in realizing this vision, has not only secured his place among the great minds of our era but has also provided a tangible representation of what humanity is capable of achieving when it dares to transcend the boundaries of the conventional and the mundane.
I’m convinced this account’s a persona troll. No one can be this moronic and annoying unintentionally. I could be wrong, though, and maybe they do indeed get punched in the face three to four times daily.
Pretty sure it’s chatgpt generated as well
In the realm of discerning truth from fiction, particularly in the pervasive echo chamber surrounding figures like Elon Musk, my role isn’t merely that of an observer or a passive participant. I actively engage in the moderation of a forum known as /c/EnoughMuskSpam. This endeavor is, in itself, an intricate dance with nuance, an attempt to sift through the overwhelming barrage of information and disinformation, to bring forth a more balanced and nuanced perspective. It’s a task that demands a keen eye for detail and an unwavering commitment to the pursuit of what is genuine and true in the midst of a torrent of unfiltered and often biased discourse.
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You think?
Trolling Lemmy users issue like shooting fish in a barrel.
Delicious pasta
That might just fit on the truck’s bumper-sticker!
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The Satisfactory version is far better, square wheels and all.
There was reporting recently that the engineers hated it so much they designed a reasonable one in their free time
The rumor is that it was scribbled on a piece of paper as an idea and the engineers were forced to make it verbatim.
So does this count as another “Simpsons predicted this” moment after Homer basically does the same thing?
Gentlemen, we are successful in getting all the woke leftists salivating on our shit, but we need also produce something for the real men. And since I’m one of them this is the people like me would want.
If someone rolled up in that, I’d not consider them anything but a “real sucker”.
“A weak man’s idea of a strong man” comes to mind.
Posted this elsewhere, but I asked ChatGPT who designed it and here’s what it said (emphasis mine):
The Tesla Cybertruck was primarily designed by Franz von Holzhausen, Tesla’s Chief Designer. Von Holzhausen has been responsible for the design of several Tesla models, including the Model S, Model 3, Model X, and Model Y. The Cybertruck, known for its unique, futuristic, and angular design, represents a significant departure from traditional truck designs and reflects von Holzhausen’s innovative approach to vehicle design. Elon Musk, Tesla’s CEO, also played a significant role in the conceptualization and design direction of the Cybertruck.
Because everything musk does is basically bullshit.
- $30k Tesla
- Tesla semi
- Cybertuck 4 years late
- Full autonomous driving
- Hyperloop
He is vaporware sales man, if you trust anything he says, you are a fool.
Also, the Roadster. Announced six years ago, supposedly launching next year, but we’ll see…
You mean the 2020 Roadster they took millions on deposits for?
Yes, that one.
Even SpaceX is missing targets in a big way.
SpaceX is his only successful project, and that’s because it has a defense contract.
I am not so sure it is successful though. They are missing their targets by years left right and center and even recently admitted they will not be ready for NASA’s Artemis Project. https://www.space.com/spacex-starship-problems-delay-artemis-3-2026
A company can miss targets and still be extremely successful if you look at the body of work. SpaceX absolutely dominates the space launch industry, there’s nobody close.
Especially space stuff.
No project in space stuff ever meets targets… Unless they reduce the goals at some point because they know they can’t make it.
Look at Apollo (and this is no criticism) - they had some seriously lofty goals at first, and then as they learned stuff they changed goals to what was achievable with that new knowledge and developing tech.
This is the heart of Agile project management - because you learn as you go it’s easier to adjust priorities and targets.
Spacex is a massive success, with little thanks to Musk. Those engineers are fucking rock stars.
If you mean “some” technical success…I would agree.
Has anyone tossed a brick at the windows yet? Or has that debacle been swept under the rug?
It was a steel ball. They recreated the event with the same guy at the delivery event, but this time with a baseball and the dude gave it the most obvious limp wristed toss, it was incredibly cringe I highly recommend you seek that clip out because it’s absolutely hilarious.
God, that was worse than I expected. https://youtu.be/IUCMGB2AGaE
Lol, Franz is a wimp.
“So anyway, the glass is tough, basically”. Sure Elon, we’ll take your word for it. Is this how they test their rockets, too?
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I want to see large gravel chunks at 80mph not a baseball at 25.
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If they were honest and smart about the glass, they would’ve only ever went with something like a baseball or anything soft-ish and really beamed it in to the window. They might be able to take bullet levels of force, but not from a chromed ball. A chromed ball will focus force WAY better than lead ever would, though if a baseball would’ve broken the window, a damn .22 would…
Admittedly car windows are just strong as fuck from the outside due to their curve and construction, and they did throw the metal ball hard at the glass before when practicing for the announcement event and it bounced right off.
Come to think of it, how much do Cybertruck windows curve?
You think there are curves on this abomination?
Not much but they have a curve.
Depends on your pov. Not curved much compared to a window from any other car. But it is curved just as much as any other piece of flat glass you may want to compare it to.
some customers have expressed their disappointment in online forums.
Wow. That’s brave of them. Throwaways, I assume.
you can tell they arent truck people
Normal truck people Love paying more for Less
I see you’ve noticed the parking lot princesses that truck guys seen to modify now.
You really don’t want to be a pedestrian crossing the road in front of one of these. Just in case.
Oh, you don’t want to be a pedestrian in the US period. That’s a very dangerous activity.
You don’t want to be in US.
You don’t want to be.
It’s not a choice. You are until you aren’t.
You can choose one part
It’s fine, I’ve got my gun
30%? It’s like 50-100% more money than promised. Also lower payload/towing capacities.
My guess is the author first calculated how much less range, in which case the bigger number is the denominator, then mistakenly did the same for how much more money, so (61k-40k)/61k ~= 30%
Author is bad at math. 50% range reduction and a 50% base cost increase. The upgraded model has a 30% range reduction for a 100% cost increase
Every day with the Elon spam. It’s infected Lemmy.
That’s a bit much, isn’t it? It’s a brand new weird-ass truck, people are going to talk about it. And the article isn’t exactly celebrating it.
If this article was about a new car from another brand, would you complain about it? I thought we wanted more content on this platform. Or we could just stick to memes I guess…
There is no relation between this story and “a new car from another brand”. Tesla isnt a car company, and it has everything to do with the ego of the CEO. Also, we did similar scrutiny of John DeLorean and Lee Iacocca.
I’d agree that I see way too much Elon stuff on my lemmy feed. This one I’m more interested in than 99% of the others. Maybe it’s just cause I’m a gear head, but I’ll sure as heck take it over the 10 X (formerly known as Twitter) “news” articles that I scrolled past to get here. News in quotes because it is no longer news that X (more commonly known as Twitter) and its owner are dumb.
It resists antibiotics, there’s nothing we can do.
For some reason, all Lemmings seem to have a constant hate boner for him. I don’t like him, but this is just taking it to a whole new level…
There’s plenty of people I don’t like and I spend basically no time thinking about them. Why these people let Elon live rent free in their minds is beyond me. Not a day goes by without a thread about him on the front page along with the most predictable comment section imaginable. Apparently the glue holding Lemmy together is the mutual hatred of certain things and people. That’s just sad. We’re giving them what every asshole in the world desires the most; attention.
It’s his broke mind virus. It’s sometimes fascinating but I’m mostly over his antics.
I feel like lemmy needs excluded word filters so you can just say hide any post that includes “Elon Musk”
Sync can do that.
Oh? I’m actually using sync primarily and didn’t know that 😂
It would be nice if it was on the server side so the list just worked regardless of client though
Seems like at best its almost on par with the F-150 Lightning for the fanboys…it’s just $30k more.
Seriously if you’re a fan boy just buy the F-150Lightning and a Model 3 and you’ll save money.
But the lightning has some space to haul things.
Who would have thought making a chassis out of a material that is denser than mild steel would result in a vehicle that is heavier? It’s a truck, horrible aero drag and rolling resistance from the get go. Difficult to imagine a worse target for an EV project.
It has a conventional chassis. Only the panels are SS.
The extra weight is entirely due to the weight of the batteries.
Good to know.
The mkbhd first impressions were fascinating for what he didn’t say. I’m guessing that he didn’t want to burn the good times he has with Tesla so he really seemed to be trying to positively spin everything. At least, that’s my interpretation. The mirrors were particularly… https://youtu.be/XxOh12Uhg08?si=jlfuFU70v5cGd8HV
Anything in particular? I’m not great at understanding things that aren’t said.
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That is what all YouTubers do as they do not want to bite the hand that feeds them.
To be fair, it’s the same thing that happened to our news. It’s become commoditized, and now so-called “journalists” are terrified of asking good questions for fear of losing access.
All these problems, and it’s ugly as hell to boot.
The PT Cruiser has been dethroned.
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God bless they are trying. I;m fro mthe south us do god bless is basic calling someone really dumb.
I watched the mkbhd video on it.
It was like he was trying to make everything sound cool, even though he knows it’s a disappointment.
I’m glad I’m not the only person who felt that vibe from it. I could feel the new tech being reviewed hype, but he wasn’t totally into it. When he stood on the trunk I could totally see he was giving his all.
I always have this kind of feeljng about mkbhd. In general he is a tech enthusiast but technically he knows very little IMO.
Often times he goes a bit too much out of his way to justify corpo choices
yep, his videos in terms of actual information are very shallow.
The retro series he did about old cameras and gameboys and stuff was really good though. But new tech is usually shallow i feel.
A tech enthusiast will have all the smart devices in their house.
Somebody that works in tech will shoot the microwave if it beeps when it’s not supposed to.
Who cares what mkbhd thinks, he knows nothing about cars
Yeah I had to fast forward through that video, it just sounds like an ad. Wasn’t impressed by a long shot.
Oh I fully understand that. I am a huge car enthusiast, I see right through it
It also look like a… Trash can lol.
I am all for new futuristic designs. I love what the Korean auto manufacturers are doing. Their newer cars generally look great. This…? This is a blunt idiots vision of futuristic.
I will rejoice when Tesla can rid themselves of this meddlesome fool who thinks himself a genius.
I got a 2023 Hyundai Elantra Limited earlier this year and I actually love what they’ve done with it. It looks so sleek to me, especially in black.
I didn’t care for previous iterations of the Elantra. Dont get me wrong - they weren’t ugly. They just looked like standard car. Not bad just kinda bland. The newer style has personality, stands out much more and in a good way in my opinion.
the dangerous brake lights are more of a concern to me than the cost and range.
This thing is so far behind schedule and they’re failing at the basics.
Gotta follow code, center brake must be distinct from all other lights… Should we make a separate chmsl then? Nah, lightbar go brrrrt and FMVSS 108 can ligma.
Really though, I wouldn’t mind this lighting choice as much if the lower brake lights were bigger and the c"hm"sl was actually brighter. Dedicate another 8 square inches to additional brake lighting, damn it
Can you explain it to me? I still don’t get it.
There is less light during braking instead of more, or brighter.
Why?
In order to make the break light visibly stand out from the light bar that goes across the back of the car, they turn off two sections of the bar on the left and right of the centre, leaving a portion of the light bar lighted in the centre.
Normally car manufacturers treat the light bar as a running light, and they add a seperate ‘third’ brakelight. Clearly at Tesla they didn’t want to alter the design, and this weird solution fits the wording of the government mandate. It doesn’t fit the spirit, but they got away with it.
And it’s ironic because in every other bit of safety, like crash protection, rollover protection. Tesla is a leader in the market, their cars are incredibly safe. Tesla really cares about you when you bought a car, they don’t really care about safety in general. Sums up Musks attitude.
It’s a big, stupid truck but so is every other truck it’s competing against. It’s got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America. The cheapest option doesn’t have the longest range but it’s still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day. It can’t haul much but the overwhelming majority of people driving trucks in America aren’t towing or hauling things on a day to day basis… The people doing real work buy vans or have special purpose trucks.
The steering geometry seems nice and the rear wheel steering is interesting. Those seem like the only major positives though.
It’s not as bad as everyone seems to be making it out to be but it’s obviously still a dumb car that shouldn’t exist. That’s all cars though really.
EDIT: Since the front windshield is flat, I assume its cheaper to replace than typical curved windshields? No idea though… Might be talking out of my ass.
It’s got poor visibility but so does every other truck/suv being sold in America.
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
but it’s still longer than the average person would realistically drive in a day.
I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
3 megagrams is crazy for a vehicle like this. With the high torque electric wheels, they will be very hard on asphalt.
megagrams
that’s a ton of weight
Knee slapper
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I must be a special, fantasy person that does road trips with 700mi or longer drives
Assuming you have the ability to drive at a perfect, ideal, consistent 80mph 700miles is 8h45m of driving. You aren’t going to stop for a bathroom break in 8 hours?
200 miles will likely give you 3.5 or so behind the wheel. Take a break and stretch your legs… It’s better for your health anyway than sitting for so long.
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos. They really need to start adding vehicle weight limits to licenses. The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
Yeah agreed but that’s a different conversation unrelated to this thing.
How is it unrelated? Are we not all discussing the specs of the vehicle? If weight is not a spec worth of discussion then I surely do not know what is.
Yeah, long haul tractor/trailer drivers don’t do 700mi a day. Possible for someone driving non-commercially, absolutely, but at the very least unwise, an outlier use case, and a poor argument here.
Maybe, but the cyber truck has especially bad rear visibility. Worse.than any of its competitors
Worse than a van ? No.
Not to mention it’s 3000 kilos.
A model X weighs 2.3 t. Because of the batteries.
An F150 Lightning weighs 3 tonnes and its bed is made from aluminium.
The US license test is a joke in most states, and then people are allowed to drive 3 metric ton vehicles from a 10 minute drive.
In the US you can drive a rigid truck of almost any size on a bog standard car licence. A 6 t truck with a capacity of 40 t if you want. GM sells an Isuzu cab forward truck (normally with a mildly tuned diesel four) with a frigging massive petrol V8.
