• AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world
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    How is it not?

    ter·ror·ism

    noun

    the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

    They’re using the threat of violence, and sometimes using violence, to push their agenda of Israeli expansion into Palestinian territory.

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      1 year ago

      Ah, see it is lawful because Israel says so, therefore it doesn’t qualify as terrorism. /s

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      the unlawful use

      It’s not unlawful to take land during a war. It’s just shitty, in most instances.

      This is why the settlements were (international viewed as) illegal (or, in the most generous of terms, of extremely questionable legality) prior to the war but aree authorized during the war specifically. Plays a lot better, in terms of international politics.

      I would love to see the US make any aid to Israel conditional on a complete reversal of this policy and development of the West Bank in general. Would do a lot for the eventual peace process, as a nice side effect.

      Edit: from the link in the article, about the background here

      The deal would include gestures to the Palestinians. Among the suggestions has been a freeze in West Bank settlement activity, including the authorizations of outposts. Netanyahu’s government has been opposed to any such demand within the context of the Saudi deal or any other framework.

      Prior to the war’s start, it was very politically unpopular for them to build settlements on outpost territory. Not the gloves are off, because they have plausible reasons in the international community.

      The US has the power to take that plausible reason away, and should do so.

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        So, if this is a war, they basically have the same rights as Ukraine as they fight for the integrity of their land? Is that what you’re saying?

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          1 year ago

          Boy someone better tell literally every country on the planet

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                What’s the specific claim you’re making? Israel did in fact start that war, with a “preemptive” air raid meant to cripple Egypt’s air force. And the political history of the region doesn’t abrogate the right of its long-established inhabitants to the land - this is an Israeli propaganda talking point.

                • SCB@lemmy.world
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                  1 year ago

                  Israel did in fact start that war, with a “preemptive” air raid meant to cripple Egypt’s air force.

                  Lmao what

                  In the months prior to the outbreak of the Six-Day War in June 1967, tensions again became dangerously heightened: Israel reiterated its post-1956 position that another Egyptian closure of the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping would be a definite casus belli. In May 1967, Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser announced that the Straits of Tiran would again be closed to Israeli vessels. He subsequently mobilized the Egyptian military into defensive lines along the border with Israel[31] and ordered the immediate withdrawal of all UNEF personnel.[32][24]

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                    Yes, the Wikipedia article you’re quoting goes on to state:

                    On 5 June 1967, as the UNEF was in the process of leaving the zone, Israel launched a series of preemptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields and other facilities, launching its war effort.[24] Egyptian forces were caught by surprise, and nearly all of Egypt’s military aerial assets were destroyed, giving Israel air supremacy.

                    You can shut up now tbph. Not responding further.