• PugJesus@kbin.socialOP
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      1 year ago

      There are self-proclaimed leftist movements which fit ur-fascism as defined here. Which is unsurprising, considering that leftism is generally defined by opposition to capitalism, while fascism can be for or against capitalism.

    • Wollff@lemm.ee
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      1 year ago

      Let’s examine that:

      1. The cult of tradition: Apart from Maoists, Stalinists, and Leninists, (all of them very rare breeds nowadays) I see very little “traditionalist thinking” on the left. So, NO.

      2. The rejection of modernism: Does the left see the Age of Reason as the beginning of depravity? No. Even the most ardent communists the pre modern times as riddled with the same problems as modernity. They tend to see modernity and the rise of the working class as part of the solution. NO.

      3. Thinking is emasculation, and action without thinking is good: If anything, then the left has a tendency to be a bit too over intellectual. NO.

      4. Disagreement is treason: I have never seen two people on the left agree with each other. NO.

      5. Fear of difference: If there is anything the left embraces, it’s plurality. NO.

      6. Appeal to social frustration: Lefty ideologies do not speak to a middle class which feels threatened from lower social groups. NO.

      7. Obsession with a plot: Lefty ideologies tend to not buy into the whole “Jewish cabal” thinking. Though they tend to put “the billionaires” in their place recently. So this one gets a MAYBE.

      8. The enemy is both strong and weak: Does the left see their enemy as scary and weak at the same time? Not really. The threat from the right tends to just be seen as scary and overwhelming. NO.

      9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy: Do lefties in general embrace war, struggle, and fight for survival, because fundamentally life is struggle? NO.

      10. Contempt for the weak: NO.

      11. Does the left embrace heroism? Quite the opposite. Lefty action is community action, where working together makes you strong. NO.

      12. Distain for women, intolerance of non standard sexuality, and a love for weapons: Nope, the left is against all of that. NO.

      13. Selective populism: That’s the first point where I would agree. The left sometimes does engage in populism. YES.

      14. Does the left use elementary langauge in order to limit critical thinking and reasoning? Heck no. If anything, a lot of stuff from the left tends to be too complicated to be broadly accessible. NO.

      So, to sum it up: There is one point among 14 which aligns. And one which somewhat aligns. While in 12 points current lefty thinking directly opposes UR fascism, as described here.

      That’s why I think your opinion is very strange.