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  • Sounds like you’re trying to school a highly qualified professional in something that you’ve only just googled 5 minutes ago. I see Lemmy is just like Reddit in that way.

    Nobody is “schooling” anyone, friend. You brought up IP, I attempted to engage with you because I thought you wanted to talk about it. And now you’re crying about nobody can disagree with a “highly qualified professional” and have turned a request for you to share your thoughts and experience into a confrontation.

    just trying to think about sensible policy that’s workable in reality

    That’s literally what I’ve been trying to do. To get you to tell me what you think sensible policy is.

    I think I’m upsetting you, so I’m going to disengage now. Hope your day gets better, mate.


  • Far more fit for purpose than scrapping the concept altogether as this graphic suggests.

    But they are broken though, aren’t they? Like there aren’t any authors going “Oh gee, if I couldn’t guarantee the rights to my works for over half a century after I dead then I’d pack in this writing lark and go and work at the widget factory”.

    You see laws evolve when they are deemed to no longer be fit for purpose, IP laws are constantly reviewed through case law.

    We’re talking about revolution, not evolution. Legislation, not interpretation. I’m asking if you were told to rip out the laws and start again, what would you do? Is that not a more interesting conversation than explaining to me how case law works?

    I mean if you want to play “I work in IP LOL Lefty snowflake tears” then sure. Do that. Hope you have a nice time with it. Seems boring though.


  • Do you think what is essentially “Oooh, I bet that upsets you” is conducive to good faith conversation? Or even just general pleasantness?

    If I asked you “Are you lashing out from fear that you won’t survive the revolution?”, that would be unkind. It would come across as hostile, confrontational and I would be presupposing your own thoughts on society and your relation to it.

    Instead, I’ll engage with you as close to your own terms as I’m able: Do you think your country’s intellectual property laws are fit for purpose?


  • It acts as a filter so that people are only expending time and resources on ideas that will likely take hold and provide value to society.

    Do you actually believe that this filter is working as intended? Or do you think it ought to work like that?

    In a spherical society with no air resistance I can agree with you but it feels like it would be condescending for me to point out how this system that supposedly maximises value to society is in all likelihood going to kill your children’s children.



  • Firstly, if that is your biggest concern, then we agree far more than we disagree and we’re quibbling over details (which I’m happy to do).

    Secondly, who said they do?

    It of course depends on what you mean exactly by a"slice of the pie" but there’s lots of ownership models to choose from. Direct ownership is one. An employee owned trust is another. These are to a large extent solved problems - mutuals and co-operatives walk among us now, after all.

    Thirdly, you mention the risk of setting up a company. If you’re not rich, why do you have to gamble your dignity and livelihood to participate in innovation? Would the world not be a better place if you could invent and create and innovate and fall back on a basic income if it falls on its face?

    Finally, even if we accidentally make things a bit too equal by giving Jim the new starter the same voting rights as Bob the grizzled veteran - is that not better than the system we have at the moment where incomprehensible hoarded wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few?


  • Companies can still exist under socialism. They can exist in very similar forms to what we have at the minute. The difference is the ownership.

    I suppose the question I’d put back to you is “Do you think there is an intrinsic benefit in someone (who doesn’t do the work) owning a company vs each of the workers having an ownership stake in the business?”.






  • In fairness to them, they’ve massively outgrown the subreddit format and are only there because of legacy reasons and inertia.

    It’s so uniquely and heavily moderated, it’s one of the few communities where it would make more sense to spin off into it’s own site where everything is custom made for them as opposed to continuing to jam reddit’s square mod tools into their circular requirements.

    I like Lemmy for the few weeks I’ve been here, but the nascent moderation tools are even less appropriate for that particular sub than even reddit post-July 1st nerf.