I wish you were a cat too

No surprise. They only ever had 10 rules

I don’t remember ever being so unexcider about any GPU or CPU HW release for gaming.

New CPUs are hardly worth upgrading to from 5800X3D and my 2nd hand 6800 XT that I got 2y ago for €400 and overclocks like crazy (20% on air cooling) is still so damn good that new cards which match that lvl of performanve are still like €500-€600… So if 8000 series will actually be cheaper it may finally match my 6800 XT with €/performance… Wow! It only took several years!

Pay to sin model now in your local religion as well!

Where? Workstations at best.

I’m upgrading ASAP just for ROCM 6.2 because almost nothing seems to work ever since I’ve updated to 6.1.2 for some reason

Salami Hussain, rest in pizza

TIL 1/3 of people don’t have Internet access

Lucky you had no solo part

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Just to add as we are discussing mainly ARM vs x86 now… that is just a small part of the whole device. Just look at the SD OLED vs LCD. They managed to have OLED screen that is significantly better than the LCD one while using less power on AVG which is a huge deal to battery life and it either allows you to compensate with more power to SOC to achieve better performance at the same battery life or take the saving and go with higher battery life… and that’s just screen.

Then they optimized the PCB layout, PCB components, etc… to get both better cooling and efficiency.

I think that what is currently holding them back is both the SOC available and the actual efficiency of given parts combined. Getting improvement in both areas at once will lead to a significant change but one or the other alone will not tip the scales towards significant upgrade.

Yes it did not have Lunar Lake to which I said “Regrading their newest chips, I have no clue as of right now.” because we really don’t have any significant testing done at low power for these chips for gaming to compare with SD.

I’ve got multiple singed copies for quite cheap after the library burned down

As was already mentioned, I’m not discussing ARM. ARM has its own issues with compatibility on top of the Windows to Linux compatibility.

Not sure what you mean by Intel. MSI Claw showed quite abysmal performance at low power vs SD. Regrading their newest chips, I have no clue as of right now.

Nothing yet surpassed Zen2 low power efficiency in the SD. And by low power I mean under 10W power/performance.

New chips scale quite a bit better above 10W though.

Also I’m not sure if that’s actually the HW limitation or just Valve tuning of the power behaviour. It’s possible they can throw in Zen5 and tune it to that efficiency level while getting significant performance uplift over Zen2 at the same power.

Regarding GPU we will need much faster memory support to get any significant advantages even with RDNA4 as most iGPUs are starved for memory bandwidth anyways, not saying that RDNA4 wouldn’t be an improvement, just that it won’t be as big as a leap as it could be with faster memory.

Then there is this guy that has his headphones so loud that I can hear what he listens to from 5 rows away

I didn’t buy Twitter and saved over $40B now I don’t have to work my entire life

Thanks. That’s a good ELI5. Fortunately I managed to make sense of it before your reply but the link to environment variables is highly appreciated. As I already replied to someone else, I had no idea PATH was a global/environment variable and just assumed it’s telling me to specify path so I had no idea I need to RTFM as it confused me greatly and on top of that I did another mistake which confused me even more when I finally managed to get it to do correctly which made me think I am doing it wrong.

I gave up at CMAKE finally as I really need to RTFM more on that as it started to throw many errors at me.