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    as someone who works in tech, the number of people who think they know about tech and are actually completely full of shit dramatically outweighs the people who don’t work in tech and do know what they’re talking about. it can take a lot of energy to differentiate the 2 groups

    dunning krueger is at play a lot, because most people use a computer every day and think they know everything about the internet because they know what DNS stands for and typed a command to flush the DNS cache this one time and it worked

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      This mirrors the experience of anyone who has studied linguistics.

      Because everyone speaks at least one language fluently, they tend to assume that they understand how languages work, while having zero awareness of the fact that people have spent generations studying language and communication at the PhD level and that almost nothing about what we reflexively intuit about language actually holds true.

      And I say this as a purely amateur linguistics nerd who does not claim any real formal expertise in terms of academic credentials.

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      Yeah, you can’t really fake experience either. I recently joined a group of guys who clearly have had plenty of real world experience in the kinds of things I have, and just talking shop is refreshing. Haven’t had that ability for a long time.

      If someone like her showed up in my team, and she’s able to talk the talk, I wouldn’t need any further validation and it’d be fun to hear the kinds of things she’s worked on.

      Funnily enough, a woman is joining this all-guy group soon and I’m told she’s really good, so I get to do exactly that.

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      Don’t exhaust yourself, just assume that everyone who thinks they know about tech does. They’ll prove themselves wrong very quickly if necessary and you eliminate the risk of getting owned by a VS model.

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        except when you waste a crap load of time figuring something out only to realise that the person that says “it can’t be X” didn’t actually know that it was in fact X

        … this is why you don’t argue with ISP support when they tell you to reboot your router: just do it; they don’t know that you’ve done that before you call them, and you telling them that’s not the problem is not going to change anything… it’s not because they don’t believe you specifically, it’s because they just can’t trust that everyone knows what they’re talking about

        the same goes for most IT problems… it saves time in the long run to just assume people don’t know what they’re doing, because problems and systems are both complex and dynamic

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          Re ISP support: It depends on the support desk person you’re talking to. I’ve talked to idiots who have no clue what they’re doing and thus can’t tell if you do. I’ve also talked to people who clearly knew a lot and could tell I knew enough to make the claims I was making. I obviously prefer the latter. Shame all support can’t be that and usually is just a complete layperson following a script. Deviating from that script at all makes them uncomfortable

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          Nah, ISP support (and many other support) just have a script they have to go through on every call.

          I agree that rebooting your electronic device will fix a lot of issues.

          But if those from support were actually any good, they would just reboot your router remotely.

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      This is true, but also IT is a huge place there is an insane amount to learn. So really you spend an incredible amount of time in the “valley of despair”. Basically anyone who brags about their skills is VERY suspect. This person is an iOS developer, which is a great career, but the title of the article is phrased like she was at least Linus Torvalds. I’m sure she had little say in this, but whilst a reaction like this is never justified I can see why people made fun of it. Also it was clearly written by someone who has no idea what the words mean. Unless I’m mistaken MIPS is a cpu architecture, you can’t program in it. You can write machine code “for” it. So yeah I can see why people assumend these claims were lies.

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        They assumed these claims were lies because they are sexist.

        I work in tech. I taught programming at university. And guys think I have no idea what I am talking about when I am the person correcting their f*ing babies homework. I had men come into my office asking me when the Sys Admin is back in office.

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          They assumed these claims were lies because they are sexist.

          …which is stupid because you don’t pick MIPS and ObjectiveC if you’re just flexing your hobby skills. From the language choice alone I knew she was a developer.

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              Yes, but I wouldn’t recommend it.

              (I didn’t enjoy Assembly in college and I haven’t written it since)

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                This is one of the problems I find with computers. Same acronyms meaning different things

                Million Instructions Per Second

                Microprocessor Interlocked Pipeline Stages

                Both relate to processors and it’s dumb

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              Well not really as such. MIPS is a CPU, yes it has microcode, but for argument’s sake, let’s assume the person in the article is not a CPU designer. I’m sure in the slightly sassy reply to internet trolls where he listed every achievement she could think of, being a CPU designer would’ve been mentioned.

              So you can write program FOR a microprocessor. You can either do it in a very low level way, for example writing assembly or even byte code to a CPU directly, or in a very (well relatively) high level way, for example the Net Yaroze development kit for the PS1 (I hope the ps1 WAS a MIPS. The PS2 definitely was). Basically saying that you can “Program in MIPS” makes no sense as such, and to anyone who knows almost anything this hurts the credibility of the article simply.