With apologies for voicing an opinion rather than linking an external article.

I am of the strong opinion that Remembrance Day had become at best grandstanding, and at worst, completely meaningless. There are phases tossed around like “Lest we Forget” or “Never Again”. But when Russia invaded Ukraine, we have effectively done the opposite (or very nearly).

Sure, we can send ammo so Ukranians can fight back, or host some of their forces for training. But the reality is, we are only marginally involved. We haven’t mobilized. We aren’t on war footing economically.

The root causes are many. But a combination of NATO’s article 5 protection only kicking in if we are attacked (rather than joining an already existing war), and the threat of nuclear retaliation, means we are paralyzed politically.

At a minimum: I would support direct involvement, whether that’s ramping up our own military, deploying specialists, reservists for minesweeping, stationing our own troops (meagre as they are) in Ukraine to directly support the fight. I would actually support much larger actions, including naval blockades or airspace closures but wholly understand that Canada cannot execute those on their own.

We cannot allow genocidal wars to be pressed in the modern world. And we should be doing everything we can about it. Right now, we’re doing barely more than nothing.

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    I agree with defending Ukraine but isn’t the point of “never again” is to not have another war?

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          Heads up before anybody else engages this guy: he’s a troll who spends his time either picking fights or deflecting fights he’s losing. Not worth your time

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          Let’s not water down the gravity of genocide. Hitting people with stray bullets is terrible but it’s a whole other level of fucked up when you round them all up and cut their limbs off with machetes because of their name or customs.

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              Yup. Although I’m pretty sure garden tools have been used for ethnic purposes elsewhere, too.

              I don’t think the Nazis had any reason to resort to that at any point, though.

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                  Yeah, it’s not impossible, they were pretty flexible about accomplishing their “work” on the Eastern front, but if you’re in Einsatzgruppen and you have plenty of issued bullets, why would you break your back with chopping? And I’m not even sure machetes found much use in the area. Maybe I’m overlooking some regional thing but usually I picture Europeans using axes, saws and hinged shears.

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            You’re watering down the impact of war, which unlike your meme genocide, happens quite literally perpetually for entire human history. Innocent men who just wanted to live a simple life, maybe build a family and that’s it, instead are forced to kill people they don’t know and die by people they don’t know because two narcissistic cunts who have too much power couldn’t come to an agreement.

            Also you can go fuck yourself with your impact of genocide. Everyone acts like Holocaust is so horrible but when commies killed 50 million through a mix of sheer incompetence, lack of respect for human life, and by quite literally telling their men in war to just run at german MG 42’s as if they won’t just get filled full of holes, all you can say is hurr durr who cares.

            Maybe if Hitler succeeded, Palestinian children and women wouldn’t be bombed by jews (who can do no wrong and are always victims of antisemitism) today, IN YET ANOTHER WAR.

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              If you had read more carefully, you’d notice that’s not even the genocide I was referencing. And for the record, I’m not pro-Israel.

              I’m really not watering down the impact of war. I feel like I gave a pretty detailed picture of the comparative severity, actually.

              Edit: Real classy adding that much more stuff after we were done. Here, I’ll add too: there’s no smoking gun, but you sound like you’re actually antisemetic. Who thinks the Holocaust was NBD?

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                There’s no genocide worse than average war. I just picked “the worst one” according to zionists who wish that I cared about genocides at all. They cause those genocides.

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                  Real hot take there buds.

                  Pretty sure the mass slaughter of civilians is worse than war. And your mention of zionists makes me question why you are phrasing it the way you are.

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                    How many wars have you been in?

                    When were civilians slaughtered by something else than military and not during a war?

                    You’re a clown who knows nothing about this world.

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              Everyone acts like Holocaust is so horrible but

              Baller line, troll holocaust denial is super in right now

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                Don’t remember denying holocaust, but jews still exist so it wasn’t that bad.

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                  I don’t remember

                  Classic, bud. But just so you know, outside of your little bubble, insinuating that the holocaust wasn’t so bad because other people had it worse is a form of denial.

                  Doesn’t surprise me that you don’t have the social skill to realize that, given how prideful you are about being an asshole