All credit goes to the amazing Luna over on Tenforward.social.

Seriously. A fucking awesome person with an even better taste in memes. Also great at giving hugs and a thousand times funnier than I am.

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So happy that I’ve been able to spend my time lately around two people who are so kind, generous, and incredible. You could do a lot worse than following them on Mastodon. Just saying.

  • Son_of_dad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    510·
    1 year ago

    As much as I hate him, I also hate actors who change and ad lib lines. Someone went through this work to phrase or develop a conversation or monologue, stayed up to make it the way they want, then an actor comes and changes it. I realized that while watching the making of Sopranos and David Chase explaining how disrespectful it is to to writer. But yeah Berman sucks.

    • Serinus@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      1 year ago

      Maybe, just maybe the actor is more invested in their particular character than the writer. Or maybe the line suits the actor better.

      It’s disrespectful for the writers to expect actors to play their characters without putting anything of themselves into the act.

      It should absolutely be a collaboration, and not one side dictating to the other, with no feedback allowed.

      But I’m not going to downvote a contribution to the conversation just because I disagree.

      • Son_of_dad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        1 year ago

        Like David Chase once said to Tony Sirico when Sirico said “my character wouldn’t say that”

        “Your character?? This is MY character mother fucker, I wrote him”

        Everyone needs to stick to their job and not fuck with the jobs of others. Collaboration is ok, but not on most shows, as most scripts are written just the way they’re meant to be said

        • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          But it’s not there character any longer, they gave them away. The writer isn’t going to be able to, much less should they dictate every little detail about a performance. Those details are so important to a charter, you can’t say a charter is solely the writers creation.

    • JohnDClay@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      1 year ago

      Sometimes the actors know their characters a lot better than the writers. For example, in the empire strikes back, the original script had Han saying something else, whereas Ford came up with the ‘I know’, which fits much better with his character.

      Kershner: (Tries it out) “I love you.” And you say, “Just remember that, Leia, because I’ll be back.” You’ve got to say, “I’ll be back.” You must. It’s almost contractual!

      Ford: If she says “I love you,” and I say “I know,” that’s beautiful and acceptable and funny.

      Kershner: Right, right.

      • Madison_rogue@kbin.social
        5·
        1 year ago

        Or Rutger Hauer in Blade Runner.

        One of the most influential science fiction monologues was ad libbed, and it’s so much better than the original script.

        Original script:

        “I’ve seen things… seen things you little people wouldn’t believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion bright as magnesium… I rode on the back decks of a blinker and watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments… they’ll be gone.”

        Hauer’s monologue:

        “I’ve seen things you people wouldn’t believe… Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion… I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain… Time to die.”