I’ve created this post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/8898162
And some admin showed they can see how the upvotes\downvotes go.
If you are concerned about privacy, you should know, that this data on Lemmy can be easily mined and tracked.
I’ve created this post: https://sh.itjust.works/post/8898162
And some admin showed they can see how the upvotes\downvotes go.
If you are concerned about privacy, you should know, that this data on Lemmy can be easily mined and tracked.
Yeah, I had a mixed reaction to finding that out a while ago, but I’m kind of just rolling with it for now. Votes are just simply NOT private on here, for better or worse. My feeling right now is that it’s sort of positive from a community feel perspective, but I’m also avoiding interacting with a lot of subjects I consider more controversial.
Probably we’ll end up developing a culture of either lots of alts used simultaneously, short lived accounts with regular name changes, or both as people become more aware of this. Either that or people will just say “Fuck it. You really want to see all the weird porn I like and my political preferences and what not? Don’t blame me if you regret looking!” :p
Appreciate the thoughts, it gives me more to think about. I’ve also been avoiding controversial subject matter and I think I’ll avoid it even more now.
I do think the Fediverse needs to improve privacy and ease of use for alts. I’ve seen a lot of stuff over the years on Reddit that an authoritarian government would love to get their hands on. I guess the fediverse, by design, can’t be private? I worry that someone who doesn’t know better will get hurt because they don’t understand the risks.
All the more reason to join trusted instances with solid admins, and to keep your Lemmy profile separate from your real identity.
A possible workflow right now might be to browse on one account, and post comments from another. Boost on Reddit made that easier, but I don’t think the Lemmy one does that yet
Why are you censoring yourself because of imaginary voting? Seems dumb and pointless
The internet is a messy place and I like my privacy
I think people will feel more comfortable voting if it wasn’t made public. Same reason we add privacy booths during elections, or put our heads down in class when voting on simple things
What does privacy have to do with lemmy voting? It’s that some attack vector I’m to stupid to comprehend?
I’m not sure I understand
If everyone can see what I upvote, then I’m going to take that into consideration before voting. If it was private, then I wouldn’t worry about it and vote whenever I want to.
Overall this might be a good thing because it exposes bad behaviour, such as downvoting the person who disagrees with you.
This might be a problem if, for example, there’s a post critical of moderators / admins. You might want to upvote it, but worry about getting banned. If your Lemmy profile can be linked to your real identity, you might worry about real world consequences too.
I just keep my posting habits the same as on reddit. I mostly comment on things instead of making posts myself unless I have a specific question, but I also have never paid much attention to how others might think of me from my statements or votes. If someone tries to message me privately to argue something I just block them if I don’t feel like it.
Ultimately this account is not my personal identity and I couldn’t care less what others think of it. I just state what I think on a subject and if that is upvoted, fine, if not who cares.
This is what I am trying to get to because you’re clearly on the same wavelength as me which is the opposite of what these folks are talking about. I don’t get the need to fuss over what other people think of me. I’m not breaking any rules except maybe pissing off a mod here or there so everyone else can eat my shit.
Why tho? Who cares? Why does that matter at all? Why are you self censoring? Fear? Shame? Help me to understand because I don’t get it. I don’t know any of you cunts are and don’t give a flying fuck what you all think of me.
What are you afraid of
Harassment, mostly.
What harassment?
A vote on kbin/lemmy is closer to a retweet than to a vote on reddit in terms of its potential impact on folks. You are publicly saying you support/do not support a post by voting on it (which might be taken as publicly thanking someone with an upvote or publicly saying fuck you with a downvote in some contexts); that can be a workable system, but it’s surprising if you’re coming from reddit where basically no one but the admins (and whoever they told/sold the data to) actually knows what you voted up/down.
Hell, consider all the drama around “YOU DOWNVOTED ME!!” / “No I didn’t!” BS that was so common even when it was just suspected – now it can be confirmed (again, for better or worse), for kbin users. I was on reddit for a long time and just thinking about that crap makes me feel tired… -.- Downvoting on kbin is potentially picking a fight every time. The end result is that I’ve basically never downvoted anything except some spam bots. I don’t need that shit in my life again – even for some of the posts that I think really should be downvoted, I’m just ignoring now. (Not getting into it further. Don’t ask. I won’t respond.)
If your IRL identity is associated with your account (or can be figured out eventually…), upvoting something really spicy could also end up causing you the same kind of drama IRL as retweeting or commenting strongly on the post – e.g. job loss, loss of business, targeted harassment/violence campaigns, loss of friends/romantic partners, etc…
I really don’t need more drama in my life, so I’m a bit more mindful of how I’m voting (for better or worse) and some stuff I probably would’ve voted on before, I am just leaving alone now.
None of that sounds like harassment and just sounds like you’re afraid of people being angry at you. I mean if you’re foolish enough to be a cunt online that can easily be traced back to you, I suppose you might have a point, but that would just be dumb for a whole lot of reasons that have little to do with backlash for being a outspoken.
Does annoying replies count as “drama” to you? Do people’s responses get that much under your skin that you need to censor yourself so you don’t get replied to? Do you read every reply and internalize it?