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    11 months ago

    The full value of labor can be considered meaningfully only at the level of the whole enterprise.

    You and your coworkers collectively contribute labor worth the value of the products you create collectively, minus the costs of inputs and operation.

    How such value is distributed within the enterprise is simply a choice by those who control the enterprise. No objective solution is available. Owners pay each worker the minimum possible for the labor to be provided, which under current systems is different for each kind of labor, due to labor commodification over markets represented by the law of supply and demand,.

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      No one in the US is going to let a janitor earn more than a doctor. especially doctors. People tend to forget the sign in the ER, the staff is hired contractors…hired Contractors. some might consider that a mercenary.

      doctors sold their souls to insurance companies to avoid being responsible for mistakes. and in turn got kickbacks and the same pay without altercation. Winn Dixie would call that a Winn Winn

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        11 months ago

        I am not understanding the relevance or meaning of your objection in context, but if you are seeking to protect the interests of insurance companies, then perhaps you should not be participating in a space created for advancing the interests of workers.

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          Owners pay each worker the minimum possible for the labor to be provided, which under current systems is different for each kind of labor, due to labor commodification over markets represented the law of supply and demand,.

          Doctors graduate everyday, Janitors can be made out of any warm body.

          Im saying. and meaning. do you think a doctor is ever going to let a janitor earn more than them even though cleanliness is just as valuable as medical care?

          if you think clean and medical care are different beasts than we are in for a whole lot more of the same from humanity

          how did you get, from my previous statement, that i was on the insurance side? I’m not a Dr nor an insurance agent. but i can read the signs they post in E.R.

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            Doctors are not in control of society, and no society has ever been controlled dominantly by doctors. Doctors also are not a completely uniform group who all share the same values and beliefs.

            What appears is that your attitude reflects a sense of hostility and superiority, which is not representative of how every doctor looks upon every janitor, and from my own experience, such animus is quite uncommon among doctors.

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              did you want to compare notes about it or we can agree with Your Experience, Your perspective, Your Truth.

              i said there is a sign on Every E R lobby about who doctors are. tell me im wrong again after you walked into an ER

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                I support doctors. I support janitors. I support all workers.

                I perceive no meaningful conflict among workers, and I perceive confusion in anyone who locates the overarching antagonisms in our society as between various workers based on the kinds of labor they provide.

                I still have no understanding of any objection you are giving that would seem relevant.

                I also have no idea why you are fixated on signs in the hospital, but I hope you find a way to resolve your distress.

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                  11 months ago

                  i like how you backpedaled really hard then try to poorly dump the blame on me again. you’re cute. id like to keep you as a pet.

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                    11 months ago

                    I have been consistent. I support all workers, and have failed to apprehend your objection.

                    Your comments have seemed to me generally as circuitous and distorted.